K1200LT versus R1200RT???

[cccpastorjack]

Yesterday I looked at a 2006 R1200RT (loaded with options) and I liked it a lot! I am aware of the very obvious differences mechanically, but can any of you guys chime in and tell me what the major differences (performance/comfort/riding wise) are between this bike and the LT?

[messenger13]

Qualifier: I can only comment based on a few shorter test rides on the RT, and then a longer 2-hour test ride.

I really like the low-end grunt of the Boxer. That's why I think it works so well in a GS. But I didn't like the way it behaved on the highway. Even with the cruise control set, the motor never seemed to want to settle into any one speed very well. Whether I set the cruise at 55, 65, 75, or 85. It's seemed kinda jerky and unsettled . . . as best as I can describe.

As for the ergos, the RT is kinda between the LT and my GT so I have no problems there. But the footpeg position is definitely a little more cramped(?) than the LT. This would have to be a consideration for you, obviously.

I will own an old skool RT one day. But it'll just be for around town. Those Boxers are a dream-come-true to work on. (I already know how to check/set the valves on one. My service manager let me do one at the shop. Ssshh...:p)

[cccpastorjack]

Thanks Joe...any other comparisons/information? Are those machines good longevity wise?

[rglassma]

I have test driven an RT several times for an hour or so each time. Compared to the LT, here are my thoughts:

1) Handles better at low speed and is lighter
2) More low end torque with faster excelleration
3) Less wind protection - wind shield shakes alot
4) Far more vibration (when new) then the LT at all speeds
5) Seating to bars position ok, but must bend knees too much for pegs, at least with the low seat which is what I need ( 30 inseam)
6) The stereo doesn't compare to the LT
7) Lt has more room all around
8) Better excelleration at high speeds
9) Less stable at high speeds
10) Transmission a bit more clunky then the LT

[atrovarious]

My father inlaw had one and I took it out one time and couldn't get it home soon enough. Other than the way I feel about the performance I was completely miserable ergonomics wise. Hated it. If it was the last bike on earth, I'd have to pass. 6'2+ doesn't work though I don't know what mods could be made.

[DRothermel]

Jack: Much of one's likes and dislikes for an individual bike is very subjective in nature. Having said that, here's my subjective viewpoint.

I switched from HD to BMW in 98. Bought a used (900 miles) 96 RT from the dealer in Grand Rapids. Had it two years, 40,000 miles. I loved it, even though the tranny was clunky and it surged some at around 3400 RPMs. The OE seat only remained on the bike for two weeks. Replaced it with a Corbin and was fine thereafter.

Two years later I took a demo ride on an LT. Bought one two days later. Had four LTs. 01, 03 and two 05's. 176,000 miles total on the four of them. A great bike for me.

The last six months or so, I found myself thinking about adding a second bike to the stable, a smaller, lighter "day bike." Although the thoughts persisted, I did nothing about acting on them until 1/2 of this year. I rode my LT over to the shop for the 48,000 mile service. Rode home their R1200R demo and bought a new one the next day! I hadn't been on an R bike since my 96 RT days. The new hex head motor is night and day from the older version. Much smoother more powerful motor, smooth tranny, very flickable, super quick (compared to the LT) and the R is 350 lbs. lighter. I equipped the R with bags, trunk and Parabellum Scout fairing. Mileage from 1/2 on the two bikes.......1200 on the LT (1000 of those miles on one weekend ride) and nearly 7000 on the R through mid May. I was at the shop two weeks ago for coffee. I decided to take out an RT for a demo ride. Result.... R and LT gone, back to a single bike, the RT. Had it 13 days and have 2000 miles on it. Not one second of buyers remorse.

Plus factors for me. Notice I said for me? Roughly 280 lbs lighter. Quicker than the LT. Ability to remove the bags/trunk when not needed and/or for cleaning. I will only run the 49 ltr trunk on trips. More lean angle.....I can never have enough of that. More flickable. Love the feel of the non-servo brakes. More linear in nature. Also love the partially integrated aspect. (front gives both front and rear, rear gives only rear) Love the ESA. What a great feature to be able to fine tune the suspension with the touch of a button. More cooling air in the summer. More cold air in the winter is not an issue, as I am "Gerbingfied" then. Love the TPM system and readout of front and rear tire pressures on the computer screen. Glad it is also equipped with ASC (traction control). Just like ABS, another safety net. And cruise.......oh sweet cruise! Sure nice to have that again. Smooth motor and tranny. I might like a little lower gear ratio for first though, but other than that, it's just fine.

Minus factors. The OE seat. Not up to LT standards for comfort. Corbin on order. Probably less passenger comfort too. Although my SO loves it compared to the R! Slightly more knee bend, but is no less comfortable for me. No radio. I can have one dealer installed if I end up missing it, although they are rather pricey.....$1400.00. Understand that all those thousands of miles on my four LT's I probably only listened to music maybe 15% of the time. If I end up wanting a sound system again I will most likely do XM with earbuds.

Go take an RT out for a demo ride Jack. And when you do, take it at least for a two hour ride. Do some freeways at 75-80 or so and some twisties if possible. Remember, this whole deal is based on likes/dislikes. Either way, it will be of value for you. You'll either come back wanting to keep your LT or wanting to buy an RT.

Dick