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bigbear
Apr 5th, 2007, 8:18 am
I have tried searching for the procedure to do this but ain't smart enough to figure how to search or find the archives so please be gentle on this computer illiterate.
Questions:
1) If there is procedure posted on this site, please provide the link.
2) When removing the swing arm is it necessary to remove the exhaust system? Clymer manual says yes but It looks like the swing arm might come out without doing this.
2a) If the exhaust is removed, I presume new seal washers are required for where the pipes go in the heads?
3) Are there any other parts I should have on hand before starting this procedure?
Any tips or tricks to made this job easier for a first timer?
Thanks in advance
Roy
kevincook
Apr 5th, 2007, 8:39 am
Hi Roy,
The procedure can be found here:
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14595
I'm planning to update it a little this Spring but nothing major, just a couple of details.
You don't need to remove exhaust system. Just remove the swing arm and drive shaft at the same time. You'll need to twist them slightly to clear the bracket for the battery box if I recall correctly.
You might want to get under your bike and check the clutch line that connects to the slave cylinder. It is the one connected on the left side of the slave cylinder. Many people have found corrosion on the end of the line. I'm planning to replace mine this Spring. Mine's not leaking but I want to get it fixed before I have trouble on the road some where.
Also, while your in there you might want to think about replacing the seal that the accuator rod goes through on the rear of the transmission. You need to be careful if you do this though. CCCPASTORJACK did one recently that was pressed in a little too far and it resulted in the transmission fluid leaking and possibly was the cause of a ruined clutch. BMW has a tool for setting this at the correct depth but many have just measured the seal before the removed the old one and pressed the new one in to the same depth.
Good Luck,
Kevin
Morley
Apr 5th, 2007, 8:47 am
Here is a thread that addresses the parts http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18380&highlight=slave+drilling
And here is one that has the drilling instructions http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14595&highlight=slave+drilling
bigbear
Apr 5th, 2007, 9:05 am
Kevin & Morley
thanks for the info
Roy
dshealey
Apr 5th, 2007, 9:05 am
Hi Roy,
The procedure can be found here:
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14595
----------------------------------Also, while your in there you might want to think about replacing the seal that the accuator rod goes through on the rear of the transmission. ---------------------------------
Good Luck,
Kevin
Minor correction: The rod goes through the transmission input shaft, the seal seals the rear of that shaft. There is no seal on the rod, but there is a felt cylinder that is in a groove in the rod on most but some very early LTs did not have that. No one knows just what BMW put it on for, one dealer told me it was to prevent the rod from rattling against the inside of the tranny shaft. It is not a seal though, as oil or brake fluid will go through it.
was
Apr 5th, 2007, 9:20 am
Questions:
1) If there is procedure posted on this site, please provide the link.
See posts above. Kevin's write-up is detailed, organized, and extremely helpful.
2) When removing the swing arm is it necessary to remove the exhaust system? Clymer manual says yes but It looks like the swing arm might come out without doing this.
Absolutely not. I found it hard to believe before we did it, but with a little twist and angle to the left the swing-arm comes right out.
3) Are there any other parts I should have on hand before starting this procedure?
If you are replacing the slave cylinder, get the paper gasket and 2 new sealing washers for each of the banjo fittings. You will need a bleed screw (10 x 1) to bleed the system if you replace the cylinder. And you will need the adapted socket/allen key combo to reinstall the rear.
Any tips or tricks to made this job easier for a first timer?
Try to see one done before doing yours, if possible. Get someone to help, it is much easier to reinstall the swing arm if you have another pair of hands. Use a long cheater bar on a 1/2" drive breaker bar to remove the swing-arm fittings. Make liberal use of this forum :) .
Good luck and keep us posted.
kevincook
Apr 5th, 2007, 9:45 am
Minor correction: The rod goes through the transmission input shaft, the seal seals the rear of that shaft. There is no seal on the rod, but there is a felt cylinder that is in a groove in the rod on most but some very early LTs did not have that. No one knows just what BMW put it on for, one dealer told me it was to prevent the rod from rattling against the inside of the tranny shaft. It is not a seal though, as oil or brake fluid will go through it.
David thanks for correcting that. I wasn't thinking or typing clearly. How is the house hunting going?
Kevin
dshealey
Apr 5th, 2007, 11:01 am
David thanks for correcting that. I wasn't thinking or typing clearly. How is the house hunting going?
Kevin
We have a contract on a home near Lake Douglass, east of Knoxville. Near Dandridge, TN. Hope to close on the 27th, then start the move in process.
We will have about 1-1/2 acres of grass to cut, so my next ride will likely be
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10867&stc=1
:(
RiderRay
Apr 5th, 2007, 1:44 pm
David:
Good luck with the new house, hope all comes together for you. I like the new ride. Don't forget to park it in gear so that it doesn't roll off the side stand! :eek: Oh yeah, does it have heated seat and grips? :histerica Looks like a whole new animal for FARKLES! :thumb:
Ray
dshealey
Apr 5th, 2007, 4:25 pm
David:
Good luck with the new house, hope all comes together for you. I like the new ride. Don't forget to park it in gear so that it doesn't roll off the side stand! :eek: Oh yeah, does it have heated seat and grips? :histerica Looks like a whole new animal for FARKLES! :thumb:
Ray
Yeah, HID driving lights for night cutting, XM radio, and wonder if Rich Mayer will make me a seat? Guess I won't need the Valentine or GPS though. :rotf:
bigbear
Apr 6th, 2007, 8:10 am
Try to see one done before doing yours, if possible. Get someone to help, it is much easier to reinstall the swing arm if you have another pair of hands. Use a long cheater bar on a 1/2" drive breaker bar to remove the swing-arm fittings. Make liberal use of this forum :) .
Good luck and keep us posted.
I haven't had the luxury of watching one of these done but I learn best by doing.
Removed final drive last night and broke pivot bearing loose on the swing arm. Only needed an 18" breaker bar to break them all loose. A little grunt and they turned freely. Sure hope drilling the hole and reassembly goes this smooth. With luck on Monday I will have a running bike.
Roy
pwmac2005
Apr 7th, 2007, 10:03 pm
David,
Keep the GPS. It'll help you keep the lines straight. Good luck!
Always,
Paul McClure
BecketMa
Apr 8th, 2007, 1:49 am
Jeez!
No windshield Dave!
Heated seats a must, even for TN.
Bob
deputy5211
Apr 8th, 2007, 4:47 am
We have a contract on a home near Lake Douglass, east of Knoxville. Near Dandridge, TN. Hope to close on the 27th, then start the move in process.
We will have about 1-1/2 acres of grass to cut, so my next ride will likely be
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10867&stc=1
:(
David,
Congrats on the new home. One way to reduce the amount of grass to mow would be to build a large garage/workshop ;)
jwp767
Apr 8th, 2007, 7:45 am
Tony's right David....oh and a large concrete apron in front of the shed so 50 LT'ers can park during tech sessions and seminars....!!
dshealey
Apr 8th, 2007, 8:29 am
Tony's right David....oh and a large concrete apron in front of the shed so 50 LT'ers can park during tech sessions and seminars....!!
I will likely be building additional shop space, but already have a double garage that is over two cars deep, and a HUGE concrete apron in front if it. Here are pics. The motor home is not mine, the people we are buying the home from are going to travel in it a couple of years before buying a smaller home again.
kevincook
Apr 8th, 2007, 8:52 am
David,
That is very,very nice. Congratulations on the new home.
Kevin
dshealey
Apr 8th, 2007, 9:21 am
David,
That is very,very nice. Congratulations on the new home.
Kevin
Thanks. Did I mention I don't like to cut grass? We kept looking for homes with mostly wooded property, with small grass areas, but this was the nicest home for other reasons. I have been told that a mower like the one I want will allow all that grass to be cut in less than an hour. Of course there will still be the trimming to be done. :(
joegottberg
Apr 8th, 2007, 11:26 am
You can always go for Astro-Turf. :histerica :histerica
jzeiler
Apr 8th, 2007, 11:49 am
Nice place David,
Another nice thing is that in this part of the world you won't have to cut the grass in the winter.
dshealey
Apr 8th, 2007, 4:04 pm
Nice place David,
Another nice thing is that in this part of the world you won't have to cut the grass in the winter.
WINTER??????
OMG, What have I done??:eek:
Steve_R
Apr 8th, 2007, 4:36 pm
Dave, While you may or may not have snow, all the good grass goes dormant, read brown, for the winter. That means you'll have time to teach us all sorts of things about our LTs when we all decend for a visit. :D
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