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Redleg_Rider
Nov 4th, 2005, 7:25 pm
Anyone had any experience with the new 2720 on their LT or any other bike? Is it a better choice than the 2620?

Black_Dog
Nov 5th, 2005, 9:41 pm
I just received a 2720 to replace a 2610 on my r12gs, I have not really used it a lot on the bike yet. I think either the 2720 or the 2610 is a better choice then the 2620 as the 2620 uses a micro-drive that they do not recomend using in applications with vibration. The 2720 uses a 2gb internal memory that holds all of North America while the 2610 had 256mb cf card (i think) that could be replaced with larger card to hold what ever Mapsource maps you need.

BTW, you may want to check out the new 2730, it is xm/weather and mp3.

Rodney

Redleg_Rider
Nov 29th, 2005, 1:44 pm
Thanks Rodney! I'll check it out, too.

bmwhd
Dec 9th, 2005, 1:59 pm
I have one and love it. There's been some good discussion on this forum about it in the last couple of months. Page back a bit and you'll see some.

wcarter
Dec 9th, 2005, 4:18 pm
The 2720 is on my wish list. I don't need the XM radio or the mp3 capability of the 2730, but I'm glad the newer unit came out because it seems to have pushed the price of the 2720 down a little. I saw it for $710 on one of the online discount sites the other day. I've even seen some used units on eBay already.

My question about the 2720 was whether you could plan routes on the computer, since the maps are preloaded. The 2720 comes with a USB cable but no software. I asked the folks at GetFeetWet.com; they said that Garmin will send you the software free on request after you buy the GPS (apparently only a small percentage of buyers want this ability). I may ask Garmin directly before I buy, though.

messenger13
Dec 9th, 2005, 5:53 pm
My question about the 2720 was whether you could plan routes on the computer, since the maps are preloaded.It's my understanding that, just like the 2620, you can create and/or load routes from your PC via the USB port. The part in which I'm guessing is that the only s/w you need to do this is MapSource. And that's a free download anyway. A call to Garmin would probably clear this all up though. They have always been EXTREMELY helpful to me, thus far.

bmwhd
Dec 13th, 2005, 3:50 pm
It's my understanding that, just like the 2620, you can create and/or load routes from your PC via the USB port. The part in which I'm guessing is that the only s/w you need to do this is MapSource. And that's a free download anyway. A call to Garmin would probably clear this all up though. They have always been EXTREMELY helpful to me, thus far.

That's correct. The only catch is that you may want to also spring for the DVD copy of City Navigator V7 NT that matches the map set pre-loaded into the unit. That way routes you plan in Mapsource will match the map set in the unit exactly. You can get by using older map sets (such as Metroguide USA) or other City Navigator versions but you'll get a warning from the GPS upon download of the route that there may be a need to recalculate due to mis-match of the map sets. The resulting recalculation is usually minor in this case depending on how old the map data is on your PC.

ltcommuter
Dec 13th, 2005, 6:35 pm
Todd, how is the "City Navigator v7 NT" different from the Mapsource software that comes with the unit?

Thanks!

Renzo
Dec 13th, 2005, 6:48 pm
Purchased the 2720, did not get it yet but was wondering if any one has any photos of any garmin 26XX or 27XX model on there bike, just tyring to see which is the best way to mount one, thanks

messenger13
Dec 13th, 2005, 7:16 pm
Purchased the 2720, did not get it yet but was wondering if any one has any photos of any garmin 26XX or 27XX model on there bike, just tyring to see which is the best way to mount one, thanksBelow is a pic of the best place to mount your GPS . . . but the worst method. I had the visor already there, and I'm cheap, so there you have it. Someday, I'll replace the visor with a Co-Pilot shelf by BMR. For some links and other suggestions, at the top of this page click on the word "Technical", then "Accessories", then "Gadget Mounts". HTH


http://home.alltel.net/paulsey_dsl/messenger13/30000.jpg

messenger13
Dec 13th, 2005, 7:21 pm
Todd, how is the "City Navigator v7 NT" different from the Mapsource software that comes with the unit?

Thanks!
MapSource is Garmin's mapping software. "City Navigator v7 NT" is the map database. In other words, it's the detailed information that MapSource uses to create routes.

I'm surprised that you would have to buy this seperately from the unit. Garmin SHOULD just provide you with a copy. That's the definite advantage with going with a unit where the map database is NOT preloaded (like the 2610).

If you're confused, keep asking questions. We'll try to get it sorted out for y'all. :)

Chick
Dec 13th, 2005, 7:26 pm
Purchased the 2720, did not get it yet but was wondering if any one has any photos of any garmin 26XX or 27XX model on there bike, just tyring to see which is the best way to mount one, thanks

Renzo:

I have the 2620 mounted on a Boss-pro mount (see, http://www.saeng.com/2535.htm) and I like it very much.

Sorry I don't have a photo on my LT.

Hope this helps.

God bless:

douglas
Dec 13th, 2005, 9:53 pm
I was looking into a 2720 & called Garmin for more info.
Was a few months ago, which means my memory banks cannot find the data but I remember that the tech said there was a difference in how easy or accessible it was to reprogram a route while it was not hooked up to a 'puter.
I decided that if I was going to upgrade from my SP III, I would go with the 2610 from the info he gave to me.
Too bad ! I really like the 3D view.

Douglas

bmwhd
Dec 19th, 2005, 1:12 pm
I was looking into a 2720 & called Garmin for more info.
Was a few months ago, which means my memory banks cannot find the data but I remember that the tech said there was a difference in how easy or accessible it was to reprogram a route while it was not hooked up to a 'puter.
I decided that if I was going to upgrade from my SP III, I would go with the 2610 from the info he gave to me.
Too bad ! I really like the 3D view.

Douglas

Rule number one - As good as Garmin is, don't bet the farm on anything you hear from their tech support line. Always go to the source (this forum right here or others like it on ADVrider.com).

There were certainly some differences in the 26xx and 27xx user interface software. Many of these have been "corrected" with subsequent upgrades. I love the 2720 and don't have any issues with route planning either on the fly or in Mapsource before the ride.

Here it is mounted on my bikes (though not much help to you folks LOL).

http://mail.k1200lt.net/~bmwhd/images/Non_Web/KLX250S/GPS_2_Sm.JPG

http://mail.k1200lt.net/~bmwhd/images/Non_Web/Garmin/GPS_Sm.JPG

Texas42
Dec 19th, 2005, 3:18 pm
I bought a refurbished 2610 and added a 2 gig CF card works great. Then you have the whole US and no vibration problems that you have with a microdrive.

Steve_R
Dec 19th, 2005, 4:58 pm
Too bad you don't ride a real bike anymore. ;) :P

Merry Christmas, Todd!!

CWF
Dec 19th, 2005, 5:33 pm
Below is a pic of the best place to mount your GPS . . . but the worst method. I had the visor already there, and I'm cheap, so there you have it. Someday, I'll replace the visor with a Co-Pilot shelf by BMR. For some links and other suggestions, at the top of this page click on the word "Technical", then "Accessories", then "Gadget Mounts". HTH


http://home.alltel.net/paulsey_dsl/messenger13/30000.jpg

Hey Joe...looking at the photo you included in your earlier post in this thread......doesn't the 2610 tend to vibrate downward when using the standard dashboard mount? Mine sure does and I was going to install the motorcycle bracket this winter when I saw your installation picture.

I'm effort challanged (i.e. lazy) and don't wanna do nutting I don't hafta!

bob_menton
Dec 19th, 2005, 6:21 pm
... and there's messy13, doing 93.7 mph, riding with one hand, taking a picture, and coming up to the top of a hill with no visibility over it (shades of Don Arthur's recent adventure). Good example of safe riding, Joe! :D

- Bob

messenger13
Dec 19th, 2005, 6:31 pm
Hey Joe...looking at the photo you included in your earlier post in this thread......doesn't the 2610 tend to vibrate downward when using the standard dashboard mount?
It USE to. I solved that problem with a little set screw that I added to the back of mine. PM me and remind to take a pic and show you what I did. Very easy...and a cheap fix.

messenger13
Dec 19th, 2005, 6:35 pm
... and there's messy13, doing 93.7 mph, riding with one hand, taking a picture, and coming up to the top of a hill with no visibility over it (shades of Don Arthur's recent adventure). Good example of safe riding, Joe! :D

- BobFor your information Mr. Know Itall...I'm riding with NO hands! :D :D :D

(Actually...it's amazing how slow 93.7 mph seems going across Montana.)

CWF
Dec 19th, 2005, 7:35 pm
... and there's messy13, doing 93.7 mph, riding with one hand, taking a picture, and coming up to the top of a hill with no visibility over it (shades of Don Arthur's recent adventure). Good example of safe riding, Joe! :D

- Bob


You know I bet he rides like that cause he can't get used to the big bike's slow speed handling?

pkpr1998
Dec 19th, 2005, 10:22 pm
I think he was standing on the seat when he took that picture!

messenger13
Dec 19th, 2005, 10:26 pm
SSHHHhhh......... ;)

pkpr1998
Dec 20th, 2005, 6:36 pm
ok

Renzo
Dec 21st, 2005, 8:44 pm
I purchased a 2720 garmin, I find the display excellent, the product overall is of outstanding quality.
Heres the question, I would like to install it the same as a factory BMW/Garmin unit.... does anyone have photos of the mounting bracket from BMW or part number for Bracket and harness, Also the part number for the left hand side controls. Do they use inferred to communicate with the Garmin unit? or hard wire to the unit?
Just the facts please.......

Steve_R
Dec 21st, 2005, 9:01 pm
Renzo, I don't think the buttons on the left side are available as a separate item. If you want the left side buttons, you might check out Perfect Pilot (http://www.perfectpilot.nl/html/switch_to_english.html). It is an aftermarket outfit that makes the left side buttons. IIRC, Garmin only made the left side buttons available for BMW in the Navigator II unit.

I can't help with the part numbers of either of the mounting brackets, but I'm sure there will be folks here that will.

Renzo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 8:39 am
Thanks for all information, Talk to Chicago BMW.....20% off
The parts i need to make my Garmin 2720 fit just like BMW garmin...
Part # 72607679273 Advance Mount Cradel $100.00
Part 99990000258 Bracket Mount kit S $100.00
Part 99990006564 Plate W/bolts $20.00
Part 99990020364 NavII Harness S 76.00
Garmin 2720 w shipping from www.JR.Com (http://www.jr.com/) $733.00 (they will price match web sites)


with the better display mounted on like factory unit

PRICELESS!

jzeiler
Dec 22nd, 2005, 9:23 am
Larry,

Check out a search for it but I believe that the BMW Nav II has different firmware installed that enables the extra buttons in the BMW cradle to work. They won't function with a stock Garmin 26xx-27xx series unit. Not trying to burst your bubble, just don't want you to be disappointed.

Steve_R
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:01 am
Larry,

Check out a search for it but I believe that the BMW Nav II has different firmware installed that enables the extra buttons in the BMW cradle to work. They won't function with a stock Garmin 26xx-27xx series unit. Not trying to burst your bubble, just don't want you to be disappointed.

Here's a link (http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=K1200LT&Number=232164&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=BMW%20Navigator%20II%20cradle&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=224172) that goes to the old site. It supports you in where the BMW cradle with not work with the 26xx and 27xx units.

Renzo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:41 am
Ok Thanks, I will look deeper, Wonder if that firm ware is downloadable in to the 27XX??



Larry,

Check out a search for it but I believe that the BMW Nav II has different firmware installed that enables the extra buttons in the BMW cradle to work. They won't function with a stock Garmin 26xx-27xx series unit. Not trying to burst your bubble, just don't want you to be disappointed.

Renzo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:44 am
Ohhhh,,, Da#$%

Well going on line to Gramin to see whats next.
Thanks


Here's a link (http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=K1200LT&Number=232164&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=BMW%20Navigator%20II%20cradle&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=224172) that goes to the old site. It supports you in where the BMW cradle with not work with the 26xx and 27xx units.

Renzo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:59 am
well Garmin agrees,.... The Nav II from BMW has a PC Board inside the unit that allows the operation of the Left side buttons.....
Oh well.