Brain Bucket Advice

[deputy5211]

Bought my wife a Schuberth Concept, and was going to buy one for me to match, but . . .

When I went to the store today, I tried on the C2 in XXL, was very narrow and hurt my ears after only a minute or two. Next, I tried the Shoei system (also XXL) and it fit well around my head, but my (hold the jokes) nose was sitting on top of the inside ledge of the eye portal (I asked you to hold the jokes, c'mon, please?). That would get very old very fast! I tried on a Caberg XXL and it seemed a little tight, and no XXXL in stock to try on. Was going to try on a Nolan, but nothing large enough in stock to even attempt to get on my cabeza.

I curently use an HJC Symax in XXL. It fits OK, but there's a LOT of wind noise. Also, positioning the earpieces for the intercom is not working real well. I just got the helmet back from Autocom. Paid them $35 plus shipping both ways for them to install headset, but I am not impressed with the job they did.

QUSTION: Any suggestions on something that will fit el melon grande and reduce wind noise over the Symax>

TIA

[Lonewuff]

Tony,

I had to get away from the Modular helmet to get a good fit. I like the Arai for fit and mine is has a lot better venting than the HCL Modular I was using. The J & M ear pieces fit better in the Arai too. I did have to buy a little slimmer chin piece at about $29, but the helmet fits great now.

[messenger13]

My friend replaced her HJC Symax because it would get uncomfortable after an hour. She went to the Nolan 102. She LOVES it! I just bought my second N100E. I highly recommend trying a Nolan. Just remember that the 100 and 102 are shaped very differently.

Also, headset installations are a breeze with Nolan helmets.

[deputy5211]

Also, headset installations are a breeze with Nolan helmets.

They have models withe the NCom and without. I'm using Autocom intercom system. I'm guessing I would use the non-NCom variant?

[gulfxray]

My friend replaced her HJC Symax because it would get uncomfortable after an hour. She went to the Nolan 102. She LOVES it! I just bought my second N100E. I highly recommend trying a Nolan. Just remember that the 100 and 102 are shaped very differently.

Also, headset installations are a breeze with Nolan helmets.

I've had my N102 for a little more than a week and like it a lot better than I did my Concept. The sun visor lasted 5 minutes before I took it off - some will like it, I didn't.

I don't think it is going to matter on the N-Com or not unless you choose to use their N-Com system.

I got a great deal on my helmet, $220 from Sandhill Powersports through eBay - no affiliation, just passing on the info...

[dpancerz]

My friend replaced her HJC Symax because it would get uncomfortable after an hour. She went to the Nolan 102. She LOVES it! I just bought my second N100E. I highly recommend trying a Nolan. Just remember that the 100 and 102 are shaped very differently.

Also, headset installations are a breeze with Nolan helmets.

At the risk of hijacking this thread which is not my intention, can any of you please share advice to a motorcycle newbie on what helmets to check out in general? My limited scope includes Shoei and Arai. What other brands in addition to Nolan should be considered? And after the obvious trying on in person are there trusted web sites with which to make the final purchase?

Thanks in advance,

David W. Pancerz

[dmatson]

KBC and HJC are available everywhere, they good helmets but aren't as high of quality as Arai or Shoei but cost lots less.

[petevandyke]

Have had a shoei R-1000, currently own a shark, a shoei X-11, a nolan modular, and a scorpion 700-series.

Without a doubt, the scorpion is the best fitting and best helmet, despite being the least expensive, but it SUCKS for ventillation over 80 degrees.

Sooooo I just added a brand spankin new Shoei Multitec (their new modular--see the official shoei website for details).

holy smokes, what a great helmet!!! The way the face shield seals alone is unbelievable, should be a world of difference compared to the X-11, it's about a pound and a half lighter than the Nolan, and I really like the vent system (positive OPEN or CLOSE, no more "I wonder if it's open or not?").

According to the literature, it's been in the making for two years, has a different shell than the syncrotec, and I talked to the guys at MAXIM honda in Plano who got ahold of a couple before they were officially released and have worn them who said they vent like they are made of fishnet.

No affiliation, but I got mine from EBay, chicago powersports under "buy it now or make offer" and they took $380 for the lid, including shipping...not impressive until you consider that the cheapest I could find it anywhere else was $475...

so, Ant'ny, if you only tried on the syncrotec, try the new multitec if you can find one...remember that shoei has adjustments aplenty...get the XXL for that giant melon of a head of yours and get replacement cheek pads in the thinnest size.

[deputy5211]

At the risk of hijacking this thread which is not my intention, can any of you please share advice to a motorcycle newbie on what helmets to check out in general? My limited scope includes Shoei and Arai. What other brands in addition to Nolan should be considered? And after the obvious trying on in person are there trusted web sites with which to make the final purchase?

Thanks in advance,

David W. Pancerz

David,
If you try the helmets on in person, and you use the salesperson's time and expertise to make your selection, why wouldn't you buy the helmet from his store?

(RANT)
It takes money to buy/lease the space, keep the lights on, air/heat going, insurance, payroll, taxes, water, trash, and so forth, and then there is the cost of carrying the inventory. They don't spend all that so you can buy online and save a few bucks. The internet dealers can often charge less because they do not have this overhead associated with online sales.
(/RANT)

FWIW, I buy A LOT of stuff online, but it is typically purchases where I know what I want already. I bought boots today a my local BMW store. I could have saved about $40 buying online, but there is value in trying it on and getting feedback from the staff and customers present. Dance with the one that brung ya.

JMTCW :rolleyes:

[dfinazzo]

I have worn the C1 Schuberth helmet for 3 years and was looking to replace. At CCR I visited Blue Moon Cycles :bmw: in Atlanta and tried on the C2 and it just did not feel secure, fit right and had a huge price tag to boot.

So after sleuthing the internet found this - a new C1 in XXL - White only for $299 . . . :D only one size and color!!

http://www.derbycycles.com/cgi-bin/eShop/index.cgi?cart_id=1817729.28565&pid=1200&product=Schuberth_Helmets&count=1

The only draw back on Schuberth is some of the components on the helmet are made metal and they rust - especially bad for a head sweater like me!! Other say noise and weight are a problem but since my only ride is the LT I do not have an issue with this helmet . . .

[jayjacobson]

Brain Bucket Advice

Been very happy with the top of the line Arai. A bit pricey ($400-500), but still $100 less than the comparable Shoei.

Has all the bells and whistles and XL even fit my huge fat head.

The best way to choose is too actually try the helmet on. There seems to be some differences in the shapes and sizes among models and manufacturers.

[Zeke]

Hey;

I love the Arai. My wife use to wear Shoei, then when I bought her a new Quantum she said it was like her head was in a pillow. There have 3 different styles to fit YOUR head. The disadvantage is that unless you go overseas online, you have to buy at a dealer. Thats why Arai is number 3 in sales but number 1 in fit. With solid colors you can pick one up for 350$. I will buy nothing else. Even though I have bought them for 15 years they still want to do a fit check, go figure. But great helmet.
I have worn shoei, and Bell before.
Zeke

[SilverBuffalo]

Tony
I have also been blessed with a size-able head,
couldn't find a Schuberth to fit me so I bought a Nolan,
ended up selling it and taking a $200 loss after only wearing it three times,
I'm back to my open faced Arai since I can't find a modular I'm happy with.
check out this thread:
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15213

[dpancerz]

David,
If you try the helmets on in person, and you use the salesperson's time and expertise to make your selection, why wouldn't you buy the helmet from his store?

JMTCW :rolleyes:

Tony,

While I was certainly hoping for a different response to my first post on this terrific forum, bottom line your point is duly noted. I'm a financial/accounting guy by trade so I understand the fixed costs inherent in a brick & mortar concern. My goal to save a dollar or two on a helmet purchase should not be overshadowed by the longer lasting future loyalty that I have toward people/businesses who take time to assist me and impart their years of experience. I dare say BMW Motorcycles of North Dallas would be happy to see me buy a helmet online if it meant securing the sale of a shiny new K1200GT, accessories, and associated maintenance costs, not to mention future bike sales years down the road. I may choose to buy all my Dinan equipment online at a discount but I always return to Classic BMW in Richardson to purchase my vehicles and have said go-fast parts installed. Again, your words are not lost on me as I'm typically quite fond of that gal who brung me to the dance. :)

Please understand that I'm totally new to the concept of motorcycles and half the fun (or more!) of indulging in such a passion is all the reading, research, and various opinions of the collective masses. My goal is to contribute positively to the BMW LT Forum while learning about this sport and possibly make a few new acquaintances along the way.

Regards!

DWP

[deputy5211]

Welcome to the forum, David. I just joined here a few months ago myself, and despite some friendly chiding for also having a customized Harley and owning a trailer to haul my bikes in, I really enjoy it around here.

Please consider sponsoring this site -- you will find plenty of links to do so -- as I did. It helps keep the lights on here, and it's a mere pittance in consideration of the knowledge, friendship, and outright butt-saving that happens here on a regular basis. (DISCLAIMER: I receive no direct monetary benefit from any donations)

I'm just across town in Coppell, which is nothing when you start to realize that folks around here often drive two, three, or four hours each way just to meet up for lunch! Drop me a PM and let's ride, after the ice is gone, that is.

Again, welcome.

[dpancerz]

Please consider sponsoring this site -- you will find plenty of links to do so -- as I did...

Thank you kindly for the welcome and I just formally joined the site! Not only is it the right thing to do but I've been checking it out for months before creating an account the other week (hate that 'lurking' word). Believe it to be money well spent.

I really thank you for the invite but when I say I'm a newbie I really mean it! Don't even own a bike yet which is why this thread about helmets was of interest. I'm scheduled to take a MSF course and all my friends who ride told me to get my own bucket instead of using one the school provides.

Per a very nice PM from ElJeffe I intend to take the MSF class, buy a 'starter' bike (something small to learn), get some experience on two wheels, take the advanced MSF course and then finally look at a decent ride. I love all things German and since Porsche doesn't yet make a motorcycle I'm naturally drawn to BMWs. That and the fact that I've been reading some travel books where the author goes all around the country on his BWM 1150GS.

Guess what I'm saying is that it'll be a year + before I feel like I've gained enough experience to ride with others. I'll get there however!

Take care this nasty wintry weekend,

David W. Pancerz

[petevandyke]

Helmets are ONE exception to the rule that Tony posted that I normally would agree with without exception. Here's why...

Yes, dealerships have to maintain a huge inventory to keep multiple sizes and most or all of the colors of a helmet in stock for when Joe Anybody and his significant other walk in the door. But the mark-up is ridiculous.

Case in point...

Dealership in the area I won't mention by name in the town of Allen TX that rhymes with Naxim Motorsports built a huge new showroom. For a little while I was considering a ST1300 or a FJR 1300, when they opened up I was anticipating that since they had an ENORMOUS showroom, they'd have great prices on bikes and merchandise, too. WRONG. Best price I could negotiate on an '06 ST1300 was $2,300 more than a honda dealership 145 miles north in Oklahoma.

When I read ALL about the new Multitec, I knew I needed to try one on, they're close to home, so I stopped in. Told them the best price I could find online, after trying one on in my size, and they pulled a catalog out from a distributor you and I could buy from, I won't name them, but they rhyme with helmet mouse. He generously said he could knock all of $15 off of the price...which was still more than $100 more than I already showed him I could get it online.

Yamaha dealership near Ft. Worth has the same Shoei that three months ago they told me "the lowest we can possibly go is $499" on sale this week for $349. I don't think they are taking a loss on it, do you?

I have a close friend who runs his own motorcycle repair shop, doesn't sell much clothing or helmets, but he told me that if he were able to move enough of the top-line helmets (which he can't, because he specializes in jet skis, and dirt bikes, and has a lousy location), his mark-up for top-line helmets like Arai, Suomy, Shoei and the like would be about 40%, more for HJC, and close to 100% for lines like Z1R (which placed first in Motorcyclist magazine's test a few months ago) and some lesser-knowns, particularly those made in Korea and China that are becoming more popular and have DOT and Snell certification.

So...Long, boring post short...... on a helmet, which you cannot return once you've worn it, I have no issue with swinging by a local dealer and "fitting" the helmet, then saving $100-$150+ buying it online (helmet harbor and Jeff there have been VERY VERY good to me, by the way--if you have ANY question about ANY helmet, there isn't a better source of info than him, says me, even if he knows you'll likely not buy it from him, try and find THAT anywhere else!), when it's such a high markup item.

Now if we're talking a battery that the difference is five bucks after shipping, or a part with a 2% difference, or clothing that is within a couple bucks, I'll pay the couple dollars to keep the money local.


Pete

[petevandyke]

Don't write off the invites just because you're new to the sport...

After you've been through the MSF course and spent some extra parking lot and uncongested road time, the best way to improve is to ride with people better than you...if not for Dick Rothermel and Rick Humphries who are regular contributors on this forum, I'd need training wheels...

put yourself in the back of the pack, and enjoy. Most of the rides like Tony is suggesting is done at the posted limit for enjoyment, not in the hard twisties to throw sparks from the centerstand and/or footpegs...you can go to the "Dragon" next year!

(besides, I'll bet there are about 100+ certified instructors on this forum alone that don't advertise that fact...so don't rule it out!)

Welcome aboard!

P

[deputy5211]

Helmets are ONE exception to the rule that Tony posted that I normally would agree with without exception. Here's why...

Yes, dealerships have to maintain a huge inventory to keep multiple sizes and most or all of the colors of a helmet in stock for when Joe Anybody and his significant other walk in the door. But the mark-up is ridiculous.

Case in point...

Dealership in the area I won't mention by name in the town of Allen TX that rhymes with Naxim Motorsports built a huge new showroom. For a little while I was considering a ST1300 or a FJR 1300, when they opened up I was anticipating that since they had an ENORMOUS showroom, they'd have great prices on bikes and merchandise, too. WRONG. Best price I could negotiate on an '06 ST1300 was $2,300 more than a honda dealership 145 miles north in Oklahoma.

When I read ALL about the new Multitec, I knew I needed to try one on, they're close to home, so I stopped in. Told them the best price I could find online, after trying one on in my size, and they pulled a catalog out from a distributor you and I could buy from, I won't name them, but they rhyme with helmet mouse. He generously said he could knock all of $15 off of the price...which was still more than $100 more than I already showed him I could get it online.

Yamaha dealership near Ft. Worth has the same Shoei that three months ago they told me "the lowest we can possibly go is $499" on sale this week for $349. I don't think they are taking a loss on it, do you?

I have a close friend who runs his own motorcycle repair shop, doesn't sell much clothing or helmets, but he told me that if he were able to move enough of the top-line helmets (which he can't, because he specializes in jet skis, and dirt bikes, and has a lousy location), his mark-up for top-line helmets like Arai, Suomy, Shoei and the like would be about 40%, more for HJC, and close to 100% for lines like Z1R (which placed first in Motorcyclist magazine's test a few months ago) and some lesser-knowns, particularly those made in Korea and China that are becoming more popular and have DOT and Snell certification.

So...Long, boring post short...... on a helmet, which you cannot return once you've worn it, I have no issue with swinging by a local dealer and "fitting" the helmet, then saving $100-$150+ buying it online (helmet harbor and Jeff there have been VERY VERY good to me, by the way--if you have ANY question about ANY helmet, there isn't a better source of info than him, says me, even if he knows you'll likely not buy it from him, try and find THAT anywhere else!), when it's such a high markup item.

Now if we're talking a battery that the difference is five bucks after shipping, or a part with a 2% difference, or clothing that is within a couple bucks, I'll pay the couple dollars to keep the money local.


Pete

Yeah, we are going to disagree on this point, that's for sure! Maybe that comes from my time owning a retail sports (SCUBA) shop and dealing with all of the folks that came in to get educated and fit for free before buying elsewhere.

There was one bloke for whom one of our staff recommended and fit a particular piece of equipment for. We even let him try it out in our indoor pool. He left saying he would be back on payday or some other paltry excuse. He bought it online after taking about an our of my employee's time, which inconvenienced our paying customers. He had the audacity to bitch and moan how he did not like the way it performed for him, AND HE DIDN'T BUY IT FROM US! He wanted us to fix it for him for free, and to let him get back in our pool with it. I overheard the conversation, introduced myself, confirmed the details, explained the quandry, and politely asked him to leave my store. But I'm a big meanie. :cool:

As for margins, our typical gross margin was 40% - 50%, or up to 100% mark-up. Sounds like a lot, but the overhead is ridiculous with staff, insurance, and on-site indoor pool. There's a joke in the dive shop business that illustrates how great these margins are in real life:

A: Do you know how to make a million dollars in the dive business?
B: No, how?
A: Start with two million.

I try to save every dollar I can when buying something, but if I use your expertise, I will try to patronize your establishment when possible. That's me, though, and I don't expect everyone to see it that way.

When you walk a mile in someone else's shoes, the perspective really does often change.

JMTCW

[KeithTxDallas]

Thank you kindly for the welcome and I just formally joined the site! Not only is it the right thing to do but I've been checking it out for months before creating an account the other week (hate that 'lurking' word). Believe it to be money well spent.

I really thank you for the invite but when I say I'm a newbie I really mean it! Don't even own a bike yet which is why this thread about helmets was of interest. I'm scheduled to take a MSF course and all my friends who ride told me to get my own bucket instead of using one the school provides.

Per a very nice PM from ElJeffe I intend to take the MSF class, buy a 'starter' bike (something small to learn), get some experience on two wheels, take the advanced MSF course and then finally look at a decent ride. I love all things German and since Porsche doesn't yet make a motorcycle I'm naturally drawn to BMWs. That and the fact that I've been reading some travel books where the author goes all around the country on his BWM 1150GS.

Guess what I'm saying is that it'll be a year + before I feel like I've gained enough experience to ride with others. I'll get there however!

Take care this nasty wintry weekend,

David W. Pancerz

Hey David,

Welcome!
There are several friendly BMW guys, and others, here in the DFW area that will be glad to help you in a minute. It's been 20 since I rode and didn't have extra cash to get "just" another bike, so I bought one that I thought would do everything that I would want and I found that to be true with my LT. Big bike, but with a little effort and great coaching by many on this site, I am up and running, but still learning. The RTEs and this forum is the best prescription for anyone, especially new riders like us. I am next door to you here in Rowlett, along with Bruce Coleman and his brother Rick. I recently rode with Tony, and I have met Munson, Dick, Grif, Steve "Katnappin", Jeff, CFELL, and many others on RTEs and I could not think of a better bunch of guys to pal around with and learn from. We ride our own ride and catch up when needed, plus these guys will "watch" out for you when you ride. (i.e. RTE in Waco on New Years, on way back, Tony and I got separated by many "holiday" travelers. He kept a watch for me as I was bringing up the rear, he pulled into the snail lane and watched for me to catch up to make sure everything was OK).

I highly recommend your path for getting on a bike, and just know when you do, there a bunch of guys here that will honestly support you and help build the confidence you need to ride, especially here in the Metro-Mess.

Look forward to meeting you.

Keith

[RonKMiller]

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/

[petevandyke]

Hey Tony...

Can I try my new Multitec in your old shop's swimming pool?


(jus' bein' a dick...)


Pete


lol.


(To be fair, as one who considers Tony a trusted friend, he's a terribly honorable man, and a role model in many ways, but he also has a lot more really nice toys than I do, so I'll add this one to my list of "I'm gonna' justify my 'do almost the right thing, because it saves me enough money for a weekend trip one of these weekends' things!")

[sheldan2]

I just purchased the new scuberth j1 helmet, will post on here the pros and cons, web bike world has a decent reveiw of it

[dpancerz]

Hey David,

Welcome!
There are several friendly BMW guys, and others, here in the DFW area that will be glad to help you in a minute....

Keith

Extremely nice to hear from all those being so supportive of the rookie here at BMW LT! Thanks Keith and Pete. Will definitely take you up on those offers once I get a little experience behind me. Also have traded some PMs with Tony. Another great guy!

This is the reason that I've been spending so much time on this board before I joined. Truly seems that there are a number of characters here, all quality people.

Now I really feel like a heel for getting this helmet talk off track! :o

Regards,

David W. Pancerz

[deputy5211]

Geez, David. Between you and Pete you're going to ruin my rep around here. ;)

Don't think of it as hijacking the thread. Think of it more along the lines of Michelangelo, who is reported to have said something along to the effect that the statue was inside the marble from the beginning and that he just chipped away the stone that covered it. You just helped uncover the thread buried within. . .

:histerica

[petevandyke]

good thing I have boots on from the freezing rain here in DUHlas.

[deputy5211]

good thing I have boots on from the freezing rain here in DUHlas.

Maybe I poured it on a little thick. You know this whole being nice thing doesn't come naturally! :cool:

[petevandyke]

yeah you cops...I bet you even have an FOP sticker on the back of your vehicles...

[deputy5211]

yeah you cops...I bet you even have an FOP sticker on the back of your vehicles...

Not me. . . my LP tells the story.

Wait. . . I do have that TX Police Chiefs Assn. active member sticker. Never mind. ;)

[D.Kinsey]

I don't mean to highjack this thread but give these guys a call with fitting issues, they can handle it. They pretty much custom order all helmets and will do what ever it takes to make you happy. The interiors of the Arai's are completely adjustable and the helmets are available in various shapes(sounds like you might like the "Long Oval") Oh yea the guys at Auto comm did a crappy job on my install also, besides scratching/dropping a brand new helmet. Helmet comfort is a Big issue on a bike you can ride as long as the LT! Good Luck.
http://theservicepavilion.com/index.html

P.S. 72* here.

[deputy5211]

I don't mean to highjack this thread but give these guys a call with fitting issues, they can handle it. They pretty much custom order all helmets and will do what ever it takes to make you happy. The interiors of the Arai's are completely adjustable and the helmets are available in various shapes(sounds like you might like the "Long Oval") Oh yea the guys at Auto comm did a crappy job on my install also, besides scratching/dropping a brand new helmet. Helmet comfort is a Big issue on a bike you can ride as long as the LT! Good Luck.
http://theservicepavilion.com/index.html

P.S. 72* here.

Thanks for the tip, I'll check in with them tomorrow unless my CRS kicks in.

BTW, don't forget to get me that info that we PM'ed about.

[jayjacobson]

Thank you kindly for the welcome and I just formally joined the site! Not only is it the right thing to do but I've been checking it out for months before creating an account the other week (hate that 'lurking' word). Believe it to be money well spent.

I really thank you for the invite but when I say I'm a newbie I really mean it! Don't even own a bike yet which is why this thread about helmets was of interest. I'm scheduled to take a MSF course and all my friends who ride told me to get my own bucket instead of using one the school provides.

Per a very nice PM from ElJeffe I intend to take the MSF class, buy a 'starter' bike (something small to learn), get some experience on two wheels, take the advanced MSF course and then finally look at a decent ride. I love all things German and since Porsche doesn't yet make a motorcycle I'm naturally drawn to BMWs. That and the fact that I've been reading some travel books where the author goes all around the country on his BWM 1150GS.

Guess what I'm saying is that it'll be a year + before I feel like I've gained enough experience to ride with others. I'll get there however!

Take care this nasty wintry weekend.

David W. Pancerz
Greetings David! Welcome to our little web site and thank you for helping to keep the lights on.

You're on the right track. If I might make a few suggestions:

I agree with those that have said to buy from the salesman that assisted you with finding and fitting your perfect helmet. It's only right and that's exactly what I did. Next time I buy the Arai, I know the XL fits my huge, fat head, and can save $100 by buying it over the net.

After you take the MSF rider's basic course and get your M/C DL endorsement, buy a bike. It can be a beginners bike if you don't feel confident enough to buy a BMW yet. There's only one way to learn: get your feet wet; or, just ride it!

Once you buy your BMW, think twice about selling your first bike. You really develope a fondness for it! My first was a big Bergman 650 scooter. Even though I was riding a shiny new LT, two months after I sold my Bergy, I really regretted it.

Relax and enjoy. You'll do great!

[rando]

BAck to original subject, I have a big head and faced some of the same problems as the original poster. I had an XL Shoei RF800 that fit perfectly. Unfortunately, it was lost to my crash. When looking for replacement, I tried the RF1000 iin XL and XXL. Not the same as the RF800. Maybe with the thinner cheek pads, but dealers here don;t stock extras....

I do have an XL Fullmer Modus that fits well and isn't too noisy on the LT. It whistled and was noisy on the Vstrom, but I really haven't noticed it on the LT. The modular helmets generally have more space in the front since they have to flip down. No "pig nose" as I call it, as alas, I also have the same problem originally mentioned. THe Modus helmet runs anywhere from $100 on sale to $170, I think locally. The modus has given me a little trouble getting my headset earpieces positioned properly, but I did get it. Helmets make me feel like I have some terribly misshapen head.

Also found that the XXXL Scorpion feels pretty good on a big head.

Good luck with your helmet search
Randy

[deputy5211]

Thanks, Randy, for your input and getting us (myself included) back on track here. I'll check out the models you suggested, as it seems like we have the same issues with our noggins and helmets. :)

[jayjacobson]

Highjack

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I don't mean to highjack this thread......


Hijack a thread? Why we would never dream of doing something like that!....

[deputy5211]

NOW JAY, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW.







Just pressing the buttons . . . :p

[rando]

Hey, I'm the world's worst at going off topic. Why just the other day..... what were we talking about????

Oh yeah helmets.....And the fullmer has a removeable liner that can be WASHED on occasion. All things considered, I really like that one.

Randy

[jayjacobson]

NOW JAY, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW. Just pressing the buttons . . . :p
Sorry! I stand reprimanded again!

[deputy5211]

Sorry! I stand reprimanded again!

Sorry, Jay, the temptation was too great to resist. ;)

[D.Kinsey]

Highjack

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I don't mean to highjack this thread......


Hijack a thread? Why we would never dream of doing something like that!....

What can I say? I am a product of the public school system.

[jayjacobson]

Sorry, Jay, the temptation was too great to resist. ;)
Yup--understood!