Zumo on K1200LT

[donscoin]

Has anyone tried to use the Garmin Zumo 550 on their K1200LT? I just bought a 2006 wired for GPS but it wasn't on the bike. I have been looking at zumo 550. It looks like it should mount with the provided RAM mount. I just don't know about the wiring. With it having GPS, XM radio and bluetooth capable to also handle a cell phone, it sounds great. Just want to know if there are drawback or if it will work on the K1200LT. Thanks

[Ranger6]

I will go out on a limb and say that that the Zumo 550 is not ready to "Plug and Play" with the GPS pre-wiring you have on your LT, not without some end wiring and plug changes at any rate. That might become the case eventually with the emergence of a BMW Navigator IV that is rumored to arrive on the scene sometime next year, rumor having it that it will be a BMW proprietarily badged and modified Zumo 550. However, the pre-wiring you have now is designed to accommodate primarily the Navigator II or III, or as an alternative one of the 26xx, 27xx or 28xx series Garmins, some of which have been discontinued as new products from the factory. However, you could start from scratch with an install of the Zumo on your LT, as I imagine some on this forum plan to do or in fact may already have.

[Texas42]

That is true, you can mount the mount that comes with Zumo to the stock mounting hardware, and replace the power cable with with the one that comes with the Zumo. I haven't been able to do it yet our LT is still at Plano BMW waiting on an oil change, I know should have done it myself but I was being lazy.

[thedavewalker]

Got a '99 K1200LT, originally had a Garmin e-map mount glued on the centre console

I bought the Zumo 550 and I didn't trust the RAM mount it came with, so I bought the following bits from my local BMW dealer:-

Part No. Description
C71.60.7.684.369 004450/CARRIER
C71.60.7.685.288 004450/HOLDER
C71.60.7.685.289 004450/SUPP.PLAT

- details at http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=0549&mospid=47965&btnr=65_1490&hg=65&fg=13

Although I believe these parts were originally designed to hold the Navigator II, the four screws on the Zumo mount line up perfectly with the holes on the BMW mount, so following the notes on http://www.snafu.org/pics/k12lt/plastic.html I successfully fitted and the Zumo and wired it up to my AutoCom Active 7

Not for the faint hearted!

[Texas42]

Got a '99 K1200LT, originally had a Garmin e-map mount glued on the centre console

I bought the Zumo 550 and I didn't trust the RAM mount it came with, so I bought the following bits from my local BMW dealer:-

Part No. Description
C71.60.7.684.369 004450/CARRIER
C71.60.7.685.288 004450/HOLDER
C71.60.7.685.289 004450/SUPP.PLAT

- details at http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=0549&mospid=47965&btnr=65_1490&hg=65&fg=13

Although I believe these parts were originally designed to hold the Navigator II, the four screws on the Zumo mount line up perfectly with the holes on the BMW mount, so following the notes on http://www.snafu.org/pics/k12lt/plastic.html I successfully fitted and the Zumo and wired it up to my AutoCom Active 7

Not for the faint hearted!


I suggest getting the screws and nuts also especially the square nuts, they fit into the slots on the carrier. But you should already have all of these things, you will just have to replace the power cable with the one that comes with the Zumo and route the audio cables.

Dave how did you connect the mic input on the zumo to your autocom?

[dhendy]

I am looking at my new Zumu... Let me know when you all figure this out...specifically, where I should hook the power on my 2003 LT.

[wcarter]

I'm also waiting to read a report from someone who has mounted a Zumo on an LT.

The 2600-2700-2800 StreetPilot cable was a combination power cable and (mono) audio output mini-jack. Like several others on this list, I have one of those cables connected to my map light. At the suggestion of accessory guru Lynn Keen, I cut off the Garmin fuse since the map light is a fused circuit.

The Zumo power cable has no audio out feature, just bare wires for positive (with inline fuse) and negative connections. The part that connects to the GPS is different from the StreetPilot cable, so they are not interchangeable.

It seems like you could simply connect the Zumo power cable to the map light. Fairly straightforward.

The audio is separate. It looks like there is no built-in wireless FM modulator on the Zumo as there was on the now-discontinued 2730. Instead, there is a standard stereo output jack on the Zumo. For my Autocom, I think I would just connect that to the music input on the intercom. I would need a dual input splitter so that I could still use the onboard stereo. I think you could use the onboard stereo and hear voice prompts at the same time but I am waiting for someone to report on how all of this works.

I like the idea of using the Zumo's built-in XM radio and MP3 player (de-cluttering my BMR shelf a little), but I think I would lose the speed-adjusted-volume feature and I don't think the handlebar volume and mute controls will work. That's kind of a downside.

[Jmkinniell]

I am looking at the 2820 or the older 2610......
But I have found some cool stuff on the net...price for 2610>>>>http://www.gpscity.com/item-garmin-streetpilot-2610-gps-system/sp2610.htm

Review of 2820>>>http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_tracklog/2006/05/garmin_streetpi_1.html

[thedavewalker]

Dave how did you connect the mic input on the zumo to your autocom?

When connected with a regular cable the quality heard by the person on the other end of a phone call is terrible.

I am trying to get to the bottom of the problem by connecting tip and shield only ( ring left disconnected) but I'm not sure if this is anything to do with the Zumo - my particular Autocom has always been bad microphone-to-phone-wise, I may just have a dikky phone socket on my Autocom or I may have a simple impedance-matching or ground loop problem so I am going to try using isolating transformers and such like next...

When I find a satisfactory answer I'll let you know ( unless someone else knows what to do first! )

The MP3 and Navigation prompts from the Zumo thru the Autocom are perfect, and I can hear the other person on the phone clearly - my Nokia N80 is paired to the Zumo via Bluetooth, which temporarily stops the MP3 player when a call is in progress and resumes playing when it's over.

[thedavewalker]

...specifically, where I should hook the power on my 2003 LT.

My AutoCom is powered by splicing into the cable that feeds the pillion's heated seat, so that it is only 'on' when the ignition is on.

I wired the Zumo straight to the battery as it has it's own fuse, and I wanted it always to be powered when it is docked.

[thedavewalker]

When connected with a regular cable the quality heard by the person on the other end of a phone call is terrible.

...so I am going to try using isolating transformers and such like next...

When I find a satisfactory answer I'll let you know.


Using just the Tip and Sleeve ( not the ring ), I fitted one of these between the Zumo's Mic In and the Autocom's Phone Output:-

Shark Ground Loop Isolator Model: VW43W
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=VW43W&C=SEO&U=Strat10&doy=search

Phone calls are now perfectly clear at both ends - mission accomplished!

[Frisky]

When connected with a regular cable the quality heard by the person on the other end of a phone call is terrible.

I am trying to get to the bottom of the problem by connecting tip and shield only ( ring left disconnected) but I'm not sure if this is anything to do with the Zumo - my particular Autocom has always been bad microphone-to-phone-wise, I may just have a dikky phone socket on my Autocom or I may have a simple impedance-matching or ground loop problem so I am going to try using isolating transformers and such like next...

When I find a satisfactory answer I'll let you know ( unless someone else knows what to do first! )

The MP3 and Navigation prompts from the Zumo thru the Autocom are perfect, and I can hear the other person on the phone clearly - my Nokia N80 is paired to the Zumo via Bluetooth, which temporarily stops the MP3 player when a call is in progress and resumes playing when it's over.


Autocom are producing a cable with two lugs on just for the Zumo so you can use your mobile phone . I have one in the post as I type.
I too tried different leads but the new lead is the only solution!
Dave

[johnw]

My Zumo came in today. Looks great after 4 years with the SP III. It will mount right where the SP III did when I enlarge the holes a tad. My SP III was wired to the connection for the dash light so it would be available with the key off. (I was too lazy to wire it to the battery.)
I'll wire the Zumo to th same spot. Leave the extra wire coiled in the fairing so I can transfer the Zumo when I get an FJR next spring.
The SP III goes to the KLR 650 I should be getting this weekend.

[thedavewalker]

Autocom are producing a cable with two lugs on just for the Zumo so you can use your mobile phone . I have one in the post as I type.
I too tried different leads but the new lead is the only solution!
Dave

Would that be Part 1299? Would be nice to see what that looks like, from the AutoCom pages ( http://www.autocom.co.uk/specials/Autocom_Garmin_Specials2.pdf ) it doesn't look like a stereo lead...

[Frisky]

Would that be Part 1299? Would be nice to see what that looks like, from the AutoCom pages ( http://www.autocom.co.uk/specials/Autocom_Garmin_Specials2.pdf ) it doesn't look like a stereo lead...

Dave, I am not sure of the part number, but I spoke to Autocom last week and it is NOT a stereo lead, he head some excuse about interferance if the lead is stereo (for MP3s) and having a stereo phone lead.
I will try the new lead for phone only and use the existing stereo lead for audio. I will let you know.
Dave

[thedavewalker]

Dave, I am not sure of the part number, but I spoke to Autocom last week and it is NOT a stereo lead, he head some excuse about interferance if the lead is stereo (for MP3s) and having a stereo phone lead.
I will try the new lead for phone only and use the existing stereo lead for audio. I will let you know.
Dave

Got this from AutoCom:-

The Part 1299 will not be suitable for your Active-7 due it being designed for our latest systems. However we have got a part ready for our older systems so we can get you connected no problems. You will need a Part 999 Zumo lead and they retail for £38, the lead will come supplied with 2.5mm and 3.5mm jack plugs that will plug into the Zumo’s cradle, run 2m in length via an isolation block so you will not get any interference from the bike when the engine is running. The lead will then plug into the phone socket on your Active-7.

...think I'll stick with my current solution ( an ordinary cable from Zumo's Stereo Out to Active-7's Music In, and my own custom lead from AutoCom phone out Tip+Sleeve/Not Ring to Zumo's Mic In via an albeit bulky Ground Loop Isolator ) which gives me interference-free stereo music and perfectly acceptable Blutoothed audio with my N80 phone, even with the engine running...