STC for Riders '07 . . . we need to talk.

[messenger13]

Any new info yet?

[DaveDragon]

Tom (tmgs), Lynn King and I have been discussing this by email.

Feel free to join in.

[RVB1019]

Just a thought, maybe we can get the Yellow Wolf to talk about his unofficial Iron Butt/24 hours of the Dragon Experience. He might be had for the price of an infomercial for his video services.

Another thought might be for a guided ride of Fontana by the gentleman who presented his slide show at last years STC. Could be fun.

But what do I know, I'm a just another Northerner. :-)

[JCarver]

Have you all got a date in mind? April 27-29 is taken for me as of now, rest is open. Have the entire 3rd week of April off.

[messenger13]

Rumor has it that it'll be the third weekend of April...the 19th, 20th, and 21st.

[Lynn_Keen]

Rumor has it that it'll be the third weekend of April...the 19th, 20th, and 21st.
Joe,
sent you an email.

Lynn

[JCarver]

Rumor has it that it'll be the third weekend of April...the 19th, 20th, and 21st.


If that becomes a reality, I do suspect I'll be there, maybe even a day early. :-)

Thanks

[tmgs]

Tom (tmgs), Lynn King and I have been discussing this by email.

Feel free to join in.

btw Steve was heard from as well, so ther are several now

BTW I was in Tampa last night at kojaks for dinner with a bunch of friends, not bad ribs at all, not sure what they rubbed em down with but it was good

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8219&stc=1

[messenger13]

Due to my west coast ride next April, I've decided that I won't be attending STC. Y'all have fun.

[kosmo]

I'll make the trip.
I've dropped a line to a friend with the AMA, he has been promoting a deal with instructors tagging behind the rider on a selected route with communications between the two. Once the route has been ridden go back to the classroom or campground, go over the pro's and con's hit the road again to correct the bad habits. Also, he has been looking at first responder to a downed biker to be included with this lesson. As much as we all ride I feel that this would be just as important as anything I could do for myself or the safety of my fellow riders. He has mentioned that a cost is involved, I would love to take such a corse and be happy to had over some cash for the lessons.

Ricky Joe

[motorman587]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?

[DaveDragon]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?

John, I'll be taking the Slow School Again, I had a blast the last time and benefit from your expert guidance every time I ride.

[motorman587]

Great, I am trying to get another motorcop to join me, who also rides an LT, so there will be about 20 years of motorcop riding experiences.

[Steve_R]

Great, I am trying to get another motorcop to join me, who also rides an LT, so there will be about 20 years of motorcop riding experiences.Only 20 years?! :eek: :D

[Lynn_Keen]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?
I missed the opportunity to participate at the 2005 gathering but definately plan on making this one.

[Jim_Schuyler]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?


I am interested.

[motorman587]

Yup, I got 13 years as motorman and my partner has 11 years. I will around the beginning of the year take some names and dates. I will offer a am and pm class. I will also be at cabin to take names the first night. I had a blast two years ago. Will hand out certificates Saturday night at the dinner.

[jayz9705]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?



Got my interest, too!
Now I'll have to try even harder to make it to STC!

[grifscoots]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?

You think I could pass it this time?

[tmgs]

You think I could pass it this time?

don't know, I hear tale them GT's don't go slow ennough

<grin>

[motorman587]

Grif, you will always pass. :)


I think I can teach you a trick two on the GT. :)

I just hook up a third instructor. So you will have three motorcops out there. Great guys, you "will" have good time.

[grifscoots]

Grif, you will always pass. :)


I think I can teach you a trick two on the GT. :)

I just hook up a third instructor. So you will have three motorcops out there. Great guys, you "will" have good time.

John, your class is the best I've ever taken! I'm putting this on the calendar and hope to hell I can shake free.

Folks, y'all know how good motorcops can ride. If you want to learn some stuff from the pro's themselves, this is the class for you.

[DaveDragon]

John, your class is the best I've ever taken! I'm putting this on the calendar and hope to hell I can shake free.

Folks, y'all know how good motorcops can ride. If you want to learn some stuff from the pro's themselves, this is the class for you.

Truer words were never uttered by the Grifster! I'll swear it on a jug of Loctite!http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

If you don't learn to ride more proficiently it's because you not paying attention.

Who Hoo, A trifecta of experts to learn from, man this is gonna be great!

[tmgs]

Grif, you will always pass. :)


I think I can teach you a trick two on the GT. :)

I just hook up a third instructor. So you will have three motorcops out there. Great guys, you "will" have good time.

Sounds like a good time, Maybe I can pull it off this year

I'm thinking I'll need a lower bike for it if the need arises to try and keep her from falling over and going boom!

that or longer legs might help!



<grin>
Tom

[Ranger6]

that or longer legs might help!Tom
Longer legs on a woman...now THAT'S a concept I understand! ;)

[tmgs]

Longer legs on a woman...now THAT'S a concept I understand! ;)


BLA BLA BLA BLA

<g>

[Steve_R]

that or longer legs might help!We can always add extra soles to your boots to build them up or you could start using stilts. :p :D

[Steve_R]

that or longer legs might help!We can always add extra soles to your boots to build them up or you could start using stilts. :p :D

[tmgs]

We can always add extra soles to your boots to build them up or you could start using stilts. :p :D


yea Dragon suggested painters stilts, I'm thinking I like the idea of thicker soles, or put Karens stock GS shocks on it.

[SmokinJoe]

Grif, you will always pass. :)


I think I can teach you a trick two on the GT. :)

I just hook up a third instructor. So you will have three motorcops out there. Great guys, you "will" have good time.
Where? What? When?

[grifscoots]

Where? What? When?

The LT Slow School taught by motocop's while at STC. An awesome course that's a step or two above the ERC range work. My insurance accepted it.

[SmokinJoe]

The LT Slow School taught by motocop's while at STC. An awesome course that's a step or two above the ERC range work. My insurance accepted it.
Thanks, but where and when is "STC" and what does it mean?

[wcarter]

STC stands for LT Spring Training Camp. For the past two years LT riders have gathered at the Ironhorse Motorcycle Resort in Stecoah, North Carolina (near Robbinsville and Deals Gap) for riding and tech sessions. The date is in April; look to the beginning of this thread for the 2007 dates.

There have also been "Return to Ironhorse" gatherings in October. I've had to miss those.

[jeffklt]

Spring Training Camp, we most recently held it this past October. It is always held at IronHorse Campground in Stecoah NC. It will next be held in the spring, can't figure out why. go back and search SE forum for Spring Training or IronHorse and you may learn more than you want to. Last time I was there TN beat Va Tech. Still haven't figured that out.

[Ranger6]

Last time I was there TN beat Va Tech. Still haven't figured that out.

What planet are you on, boy?!? :confused: It was Suth C'linah wasn't it? :histerica

[messenger13]

The official website for last year's event is HERE (http://www.stcforriders.com/). Forum member 'vstromboli' and myself put it together.

I will be headed out west during STC in '07, so I won't be attending. All this talk about riding slow...meanwhile I'll be ripping across the country at Mach 10. Kinda makes me chuckle. :D

Have fun y'all. And say "Hey" to John and Charlene for me.

[jeffklt]

What planet are you on, boy?!? :confused: It was Suth C'linah wasn't it? :histerica I think I've been hangin' around Skippy too long :)

[robasay]

Ok you guys are way too tempting. I might just have to ride back for the fun and excitement. Lets see, 3-4 days to get there, or maybe two If I do an iron butt on the way there. I can then add the south eastern half of the US to my map. That will leave the north central and north east US to finish. As an ex MSF instructor 20+ yrs ago I could use some fun and practice. I will keep up on the updated news of the event.

[Ranger6]

I think I've been hangin' around Skippy too long :)
Skippy says he resembles that remark. :p

[LTOehler]

I will offer the motorman slow school, whoever wishes. I plan on having a second instructor for those dates. Maybe some new exercises. Like to know if this something that interest the LT riders?
Sounds like a great opportunity, please consider me "Interested". I will be making every attempt to make it to the STC. Looking forward to it !! :bmw:

[Arby60]

I am very interested. Would like more information. First, I would need to know if this course would be over my head. I have had my LT for a little over a month. Love it and feel confident on it, except maybe for smooth stops. My wife has been riding with me lately and we're having great fun. I previously had an F650GS and a Honda Shadow 1100. Took the MSF basic and experienced riders courses, but not on the LT. I am a good student and quick learner, but don't have near the experience of many of you. I want to get better. Appreciate your comments.

Ray

[motorman587]

Ray,
Please, come I have now on board a third instructor, so if needed one of those instructors will be with yo for one on one, if needed. I start with a cone weave, off set cone weave, Iron cross, a lot braking, ABS demo, curve, swerve, 90 degree pull out (I think that one was hit) and some others if time is there. My other instructor is John Berens, 12 year motor cop and a motor cop instructor and the third is Alan Morris about 2 years on motors. Both great guys, otherwise they would not be with me. I see that the course also may lower your insurance, plus you have a blast.

I will be at the camp Thursday/Friday night for sign up and payment. Friday/Saturday 8A-12P or 1P-5P fee will be $200 per person. You feel you did not learn anything I will return your money.

Call me with any other information. 850-694-2566

[hschisler]

I am very interested. Would like more information. First, I would need to know if this course would be over my head. I have had my LT for a little over a month. Love it and feel confident on it, except maybe for smooth stops. My wife has been riding with me lately and we're having great fun. I previously had an F650GS and a Honda Shadow 1100. Took the MSF basic and experienced riders courses, but not on the LT. I am a good student and quick learner, but don't have near the experience of many of you. I want to get better. Appreciate your comments.

RayI have the same questions/concerns as Ray. Sure, I've been riding my LT for about 15 months and have 25k miles on it, but I definitely don't have the confidence (or skills) to do the hard slow-speed turns I think you'll be teaching. YES, that's a valuable skill but I'm real reluctant to drop my LT a dozen times in a parking lot in the same four-hour class. Don't mind the embarassment, just don't want to tear up the bike that much.

I'll also offer that not having this skill prevents me from doing the nice short turns in a street or parking lot I'd like to be able to do.

So... with that in mind, what comments do you have? Am I teachable? :D

[SmokinJoe]

I have the same questions/concerns as Ray. Sure, I've been riding my LT for about 15 months and have 25k miles on it, but I definitely don't have the confidence (or skills) to do the hard slow-speed turns I think you'll be teaching. YES, that's a valuable skill but I'm real reluctant to drop my LT a dozen times in a parking lot in the same four-hour class. Don't mind the embarassment, just don't want to tear up the bike that much.

I'll also offer that not having this skill prevents me from doing the nice short turns in a street or parking lot I'd like to be able to do.

So... with that in mind, what comments do you have? Am I teachable? :D
Howard,
Go to:
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=114045#post114045
and see post #9 to help ease your fears.

Also if you have to XL J-Peg located under the crash bar, I would temporarily remove them. Then you will have NOTHING to worry about doing slow speed maneuvers!
You can do it!

[kevincook]

I have the same questions/concerns as Ray. Sure, I've been riding my LT for about 15 months and have 25k miles on it, but I definitely don't have the confidence (or skills) to do the hard slow-speed turns I think you'll be teaching. YES, that's a valuable skill but I'm real reluctant to drop my LT a dozen times in a parking lot in the same four-hour class. Don't mind the embarassment, just don't want to tear up the bike that much.

I'll also offer that not having this skill prevents me from doing the nice short turns in a street or parking lot I'd like to be able to do.

So... with that in mind, what comments do you have? Am I teachable? :D


Howard, I think it would be better to drop your bike in front of a bunch of instructors and LT riders in a parking lot instead of in front of a bunch of Harley riders on the road :D .

Cover up the parts of the bike that may get scratched and then push yourself....it's the only way to get better. It's much safer to do this in a controlled environement than on your own somewhere.

If I can get free that weekend I'm going to try to make it down.

Kevin

[motorman587]

I already have heard complaints about my fee. First I sorry to charge that much, but really do not think that it is that much. Last time I only made $300 per day for two days. That does not count the extra day for set up, painting the range. This year I getting two more instructors, a bigger trailer for more cones, and then gas prices. The gas prices is going to kill me pulling a trialer. I make at the PD around 45 an hour, so taking vacation, I am losing money, plus the course, sitting at the computer, is now costing me money. So, if you think the fee is too much, then please tell me now and I will stay at home. I got twin daughters and truely rather be with them.


So, got that off my chest, and takers,
Let me know Friday or Saturday, AM or PM.

[motorman587]

I have the same questions/concerns as Ray. Sure, I've been riding my LT for about 15 months and have 25k miles on it, but I definitely don't have the confidence (or skills) to do the hard slow-speed turns I think you'll be teaching. YES, that's a valuable skill but I'm real reluctant to drop my LT a dozen times in a parking lot in the same four-hour class. Don't mind the embarassment, just don't want to tear up the bike that much.

I'll also offer that not having this skill prevents me from doing the nice short turns in a street or parking lot I'd like to be able to do.

So... with that in mind, what comments do you have? Am I teachable? :D

Yes, you are teachable, in fact in the two days, two years ago we only had two or three drops out of 14. Plus I will bring some fire hose and we will tape up the crash wings. Yes take of the j-pegs.

[hschisler]

I already have heard complaints about my fee..I was initially surprised at the fee, but then I put together these facts:
1. I paid $25 (that's right, it's $25 in Ohio) for the MSF BRC... but that's only because the majority of the cost is subsidized by the state. In other states the fee can be much more.
2. A local HD dealer charges $295 for (I think this is what they call it) The Harley Experience. It's the MSF BRC with a HD spin on it -- they have HD tents, apparel (for sale, not freebies), snacks and beverages... you get the idea.
3. Your focus is going to be on slow-speed maneuvering, the area we can benefit from the most.

So, while $200 isn't pocket change, if the course is half the value your previous attendees say it is, it's well worth it. If I can walk out of the course a better rider it's a bargain. Kind of like ATGATT. :cool:

I can't reserve a spot in the class because I have no way of knowing if I'm attending, this far in the future.

[hschisler]

Howard, I think it would be better to drop your bike in front of a bunch of instructors and LT riders in a parking lot instead of in front of a bunch of Harley riders on the road :D .
It wasn't the embarassment factor I was thinking of... it was the cumulative damage from multiple drops on the same day. :rolleyes:

Cover up the parts of the bike that may get scratched and then push yourself....it's the only way to get better. It's much safer to do this in a controlled environement than on your own somewhere.
Excellent idea.

[Arby60]

John, I don't think your fee is excessive. A small investment to gain proficiency on this "ship". Saturday a.m. Thanks.

Ray

[messenger13]

Call me "crazy", but I think $300 is better money spent for 8+ hours on a closed track, than $200 in a parking lot.

[motorman587]

Sure call you crazy, however the race track probably makes their income some where else which can have a low fee. I am "Joe Blow" from no where, just a motor cop that has 100000 miles crash free miles in 13 years, so I got to be doing something right. I ride everyday chasing down speeds reach speeds in _________. So call them crazy, I call them good investors.


I also forgot to add in insurance, and I also had to divide the money I made two years ago with wife. I profitted maybe $150.

So, if you want I will give, if you do not, I will stay home.

[bowlesj]

Call me "crazy", but I think $300 is better money spent for 8+ hours on a closed track, than $200 in a parking lot.

And especially if you can get varying weather conditions.

Well Joe, you stuck your neck out on that one, so I'll back you up because you said what I was afraid to.

I KNOW my slow riding leaves a lot to be desired, but that isn't what will keep me alive. I was prepared to participate in the classes but the price will keep me away although I am sure it is deserved by the instructors.

However, for those listening, I do believe full panic stops (with A/S activated and , better yet threshold braking without A/S activated) are huge life savers. Couple that with an avoidance maneuver and that is golden experience.

See ya all at STC '07. Even if I have to commute:)

[motorman587]

I respect that, but I not going to lose money this year, sorry.

[hschisler]

Call me "crazy", but I think $300 is better money spent for 8+ hours on a closed track, than $200 in a parking lot.Depends on what your experience level is, what your riding style is, and what your needs are. I trust we all will spend our money in the way that is best for each of us.

[grifscoots]

A race track is a controlled condition environment. What John's class teaches you is riding in an uncontrolled environment: public roads. Taught by the boy's who ride them professionally and proficeintly.

I don't know about y'all, but I rarely ride on a race track.

Consider this: the cost of John's course vs. the cost of a hospital stay, or worse. I found his class extremely valuable.

Howard, some of the newer riders and even old hand's learn and practice riding a decreasing radius turn from both directions. That one can bite you hard in many ways at any speed if you don't know what you're doing.

Ton's of folks have bad habits. For instance: hitting the brakes when a multiple swerve will save your butt. John shows you that you can do this with confidence.

There is a lot more, but the most important one is this class is FUN!! You'll ride away feeling more assured of your skills and learn new one's. This from a feller who has ridden multiple 100,000 miles over 37 years.

[DaveDragon]

We're working to setup a fee structure that will meet John's needs to cover all the expenses as well as a reasonable profit margin.

He and his two buds are giving up work hours for this.
Our Police have to work extra shifts when ever they can, the base salaries are just not enough to raise a family on these days.

If the classes were near Tallahassee the costs for this endeavor would be much less, but let's face facts, people don't gather in the hills of Tallahassee for curve carving.

John's training and His enormous real-world experience as well as competitive riding victories among his peers across the Nation make him uniquely qualified in this field. I feel we are fortunate to have access to this highly specialized training, delivered professionally, and in a manner that reinforces the skills that can save your life, at the moment you need them.

I doubt man here remember the Mustang Driver that tried repeatedly to Kill Me with his car, during my morning commute. I was able to maneuver safely through very heavy traffic, evading the Idiot by applying John's Training that he shared with us.
The Idiot lost his license and car thanks to a Judge.
I lived through the encounter thanks to the training.

I will construct a Poll to Gage interest and help us find a happy compromise on the costs.

My 2cents, I'll re-take the training at his price, I've already cashed in on the benefits.

[DaveDragon]

HERE is the Poll (http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16978) Please only vote if you plan on attending.

Thanks.

[motorman587]

John, I don't think your fee is excessive. A small investment to gain proficiency on this "ship". Saturday a.m. Thanks.

Ray

Ray,
Got you marked for Saturday, just let me know if you will show, thanks
John

[Jim_Schuyler]

John,

I'll take the class. Earliest as possible, case of bad weather, could get in later. Lotsa rain last year.

It is just a matter of priorities with your money. Some eat, drink, stay in hotels. I carry my lunch! & tent.

[motorman587]

John,

I'll take the class. Earliest as possible, case of bad weather, could get in later. Lotsa rain last year.

It is just a matter of priorities with your money. Some eat, drink, stay in hotels. I carry my lunch! & tent.

Jim,
Got you down Friday, 20th at 8A. If you can not make just let me know thanks.
John

[motorman587]

After thinking about it long and hard I have decided to keep the fee the same as two years ago. Why?? First I am not a business man and this is not going to get me rich. I believe the information I have will someday save a life and what Dave stated it has him. So as long I can cover some the expense getting up there I will be happy. I rather make friends then make money. Probably why I am in debt. :) So, I hope $150 isnt too much?

[kosmo]

Motorman587 are you the instructor on the video, ( Street Pro ?) with the beautiful blonde and is she going to make the trip ??? Great video, I've been riding for over forty years, dirt, street, all kinds of bikes and this video really is worth the money!

[motorman587]

Motorman587 are you the instructor on the video, ( Street Pro ?) with the beautiful blonde and is she going to make the trip ??? Great video, I've been riding for over forty years, dirt, street, all kinds of bikes and this video really is worth the money!

Nope, not me. I know who you are talking about, Jerry Pellimento, something like that. Ride like a Pro video. If fact I taught him when he went to instructor school. If you go to his web site and has pictures of the motor school I am the instructor kneeling down. More about me go to this web site,http://www.flsaferider.com/index.cfm?pageid=5

go to this link read a article I wrote about ABS for cop bikes,

http://www.motorcops.com/police_training/abs_braking.asp

[Lynn_Keen]

After thinking about it long and hard I have decided to keep the fee the same as two years ago. Why?? First I am not a business man and this is not going to get me rich. I believe the information I have will someday save a life and what Dave stated it has him. So as long I can cover some the expense getting up there I will be happy. I rather make friends then make money. Probably why I am in debt. :) So, I hope $150 isnt too much?
Thanks John. At that price your class is a great value and I'm sure you'll get pleanty of takers. You can count me in for the Friday morning class.

Lynn Keen

[motorman587]

PM with your home address and I will mail a waiver/registration. Mail it back with a check and this will confirm a slot. I will not deposit the check until after the school, just in case something goes wrong. Thanks.
Motorman Slow School

[Arby60]

Please excuse me while I have a "senior moment"! Help me understand all of this. I was under the impression that April 19,20 and 21 were the proposed dates. Are these now confirmed dates? Are there 2 classes on Friday and 2 on Saturday? What about lodging? Do most people stay a day or 2 or 3? Are there any rides or activities outside the class schedules? Can I bring my wife?
Just trying to get the big picture since I haven't done this before. Thanks for your patience.

Ray

[Steve_R]

Ray,

We're still the working the dates for STC. The gentleman that has guided the last 2 STCs is headed for Brazil for a wonderful ride about, so there is group of us, the Brain Trust :eek:, that has taken on this assignment. We are verifying with Iron Horse that we dates in concrete.

The slow school just happens to be one of the items we are working on with John Pretti. His classes will be a half days in the morning and afternoon on Friday and Saturday.

There is plenty of good riding in the area since you are less than 25 miles from the Tail of the Dragon, Cherohala Skyway, Blue Ridge Parkway, North Carolina 28 and many other good twisty roads. Check out this (http://www.tailofthedragon.com/) for roads in the surrounding areas.

We are working with the Iron Horse Motorcycle Lodge (http://www.ironhorsenc.com/) for our base of operations. Most of us stay here as they have camping, cabins, and RV spots as well as serving breakfast and dinner, extra charge per meal, and have the best Brownie Sundae you ever wrapped your lips around. :thumb:

We are working on getting the Spring Training Camp for Riders site updated with this years information. You can read about what took place last year by looking at the site (http://www.stcforriders.com/). The Brain Trust is diligently working to get things in place to make this spring a great time for all. Keep checking the STC to see the plans as we make them.

Also, many of us bring our wives. They have to be prepared to ride or sit at Iron Horse, because there isn't any shopping close at hand. At least not any that I know about, because my bride wants to ride while we're there. :D And with that said, you'll notice that takes me out of John's LT Slow School.

I hope that answers some of your questions. Any more, ask away.

[hschisler]

Please excuse me while I have a "senior moment"! Help me understand all of this. I was under the impression that April 19,20 and 21 were the proposed dates. Are these now confirmed dates? Are there 2 classes on Friday and 2 on Saturday? What about lodging? Do most people stay a day or 2 or 3? Are there any rides or activities outside the class schedules? Can I bring my wife?
Just trying to get the big picture since I haven't done this before. Thanks for your patience.

RayRay, Steve just answered all your questions, but I'll add one point: there are many things of interest (not bike-related) in the area for wives/SOs to do. Last year I trailered the bike (yeah, yeah... blah blah blah :D) so that my wife could have a car to go do the things she wanted to do while I rode, got farkles installed, met new friends, and so on. Seems like a fair trade. Anyway, there are neat little towns, interesting/quaint shopping spots, historical sites, etc. The world is her oyster and she doesn't have to sit in the Lodge or ride with you if that's not her thing. My wife also enjoyed Susan Galpin's evening presentations at the Lodge. She still mentions it from time to time.

[Steve_R]

Yes, you are teachable, in fact in the two days, two years ago we only had two or three drops out of 14. Plus I will bring some fire hose and we will tape up the crash wings. Yes take of the j-pegs.John, I've met Howard, you might want to rethink the you are teachable comment. ;) :D

[hschisler]

John, I've met Howard, you might want to rethink the you are teachable comment. ;) :Dhey Hey HEY -- who asked you? I'm so inexperienced I'm nothing BUT teachable! I'm the guy everyone points to as an example of what not to do on a bike. :D And he'll probably charge me double if I get to go!

[Steve_R]

What else are friends for??? :thumb:

[DaveDragon]

PM with your home address and I will mail a waiver/registration. Mail it back with a check and this will confirm a slot. I will not deposit the check until after the school, just in case something goes wrong. Thanks.
Motorman Slow School

Put me down for Friday Morning as well, rain or shine.
It was raining on us at the last class and it made it more real-life.

I'm really looking forward to it again.

This time, I'll take it on the GSA!

I'll shoot you my contact info for the waiver.

Thanks for reconsidering the cost John.

Now, lets get everybody at STC trained.

There may even be a special giveaway for those who take the class.

[Arby60]

Thanks for the info. guys. Just did'nt know how to plan and didn't want to ride a couple hundred miles for 1/2 day class. I'll stay tuned.

Ray

[motorman587]

Taken Ray's name off, for Saturday April 21's AM and added for Friday, 20th Dave and Lynn in the AM

[motorman587]

Thanks John. At that price your class is a great value and I'm sure you'll get pleanty of takers. You can count me in for the Friday morning class.

Lynn Keen

PM me with your address and I wil sent wavior and registration.
John

[UncleRock]

I got twin daughters and truely rather be with them.
So, got that off my chest, and takers,
Let me know Friday or Saturday, AM or PM.
Hey John; you don't have to explain it, if they don't like it F__k em. Remember the only cheap thing on a BMW is the rider. :eek:
Hey Howard, If I'm there you can use my bike to run the course, if you drop it so what. (Think we could tell?)
Rock

[hschisler]

...
Hey Howard, If I'm there you can use my bike to run the course, if you drop it so what. (Think we could tell?)
RockWell... it might put a couple of scratches on the various bumperstickers or reflective tape on your LT. :D

If I can make STC and take the course I'll use my own bike. I'll just remove the Jpegs and Mick-o-Pegs and plastic tipover wing covers, and put some pieces of hose, split length-wise, over the pannier trim pieces. That's been suggested a couple of times and makes sense.

Thanks for the offer.

[tmgs]

After thinking about it long and hard I have decided to keep the fee the same as two years ago. Why?? First I am not a business man and this is not going to get me rich. I believe the information I have will someday save a life and what Dave stated it has him. So as long I can cover some the expense getting up there I will be happy. I rather make friends then make money. Probably why I am in debt. :) So, I hope $150 isnt too much?

John that is decent of you. I'll be glad to come early, in fact I will probably be there already and give a hand to ya setting up.

You can PM me if you like for my tele number

Tom

[motorman587]

Hey John; you don't have to explain it, if they don't like it F__k em. Remember the only cheap thing on a BMW is the rider. :eek:
Hey Howard, If I'm there you can use my bike to run the course, if you drop it so what. (Think we could tell?)
Rock

Rock,
Thanks for the shock, I see that the mags. you sent your a writer. Wish I had that skill. Saw that you lost weight too, which I trying to do as we speak. If you get a chance come by the Slow School, let you do some exericse for free. :)

[motorman587]

John that is decent of you. I'll be glad to come early, in fact I will probably be there already and give a hand to ya setting up.

You can PM me if you like for my tele number

Tom

Tom,
Thanks, realized I am no businessman just a plain old good guy which likes to have fun. I did try to make a little money, but got to much flak, so rather have friends then folks hating me. Remember when it closer to April and we will exchange telephone ##s otherwise I will forget. Later.

[hschisler]

Rock,
Thanks for the shock, I see that the mags. you sent your a writer. Wish I had that skill. Saw that you lost weight too, which I trying to do as we speak. If you get a chance come by the Slow School, let you do some exericse for free. :)Just let Rock do multiple reps -- picking up my LT! ("And ONE and TWO and THREE and FOUR...") :D

[Ranger]

John,

I'd like to sign up for one of the Saturday slots, AM or PM is fine with me. Thanks! (please don't read anything into my avatar, it's absolutely no reflection on any real life experiences!) :)

[motorman587]

Hey, kind of busy at the home front. Baby sitter sick so I have been playing Mr. Mom and my truck transmission went out Sunday putting up x-mas lights for the kids. So, I am busy have not had time to place registrations in the mail yet. Hopefully by the end of the week. later
john

[kosmo]

I'd like to sign up for friday morning, if not then sat. morning.
And making sure that this is still on for the weekend of the 20th-22nd of April 07.

[motorman587]

I hope it is, got 6 signed up. Got you down for Friday AM. Please PM with your address so I can mail a wavier and registration form.

[kosmo]

By the way what is the cost for the training....motorman587 ?????

[motorman587]

$150 for AM or PM course. Trust me you will get your money worth. This is a combination of Motor cop course and MSF with 13 years of motor patrol in 4 hours.

[motorman587]

By the way what is the cost for the training....motorman587 ?????


I have you down for Friday AM, can you send me your address via PM.


I have sent out registration/wavier, will put in the mail in the morning for the once who have shown interest and PM me with address.


John

[belga1976]

Due to my west coast ride next April, I've decided that I won't be attending STC. Y'all have fun.


Ya comming to see me?

[FredR]

$150 for AM or PM course. Trust me you will get your money worth. This is a combination of Motor cop course and MSF with 13 years of motor patrol in 4 hours.I would like to sign up to take the course. Fri or Sat, AM or PM wherever you can fit me in.
Thanks
Fred Rosenbaum
11 Stone Road
Burlington, CT 06013

[tmgs]

Tom,
Thanks, realized I am no businessman just a plain old good guy which likes to have fun. I did try to make a little money, but got to much flak, so rather have friends then folks hating me. Remember when it closer to April and we will exchange telephone ##s otherwise I will forget. Later.


Not a problem, I will pm you my number when iut gets closer , in fact anything else I can do to help let me know, I live 95 miles from there so it is no biggie to get there before hand. Also let me know PM if you fill all classes anytime soon

tom

[motorman587]

I would like to sign up to take the course. Fri or Sat, AM or PM wherever you can fit me in.
Thanks
Fred Rosenbaum
11 Stone Road
Burlington, CT 06013

Mailed registration/wavier for Friday April 20th 1PM.

[tmgs]

Hey stranger, how's that S treating ya? Still keeping it on the road <grin>

Tom