Slave Cylinder Tech Session In North Carolina

[cccpastorjack]

OK Guys...here's the deal. I live in Cornelius, NC (just north of Charlotte, NC) and myself and one other guy just replaced both of our Slave Cylinders and drilled weepholes in both bikes. Both went extremely smooth and each one took about 3-4 hours to perform. The second bike was much quicker! ;)

I would love to host a Tech Session to do this procedure at my garage. I have all the necessaries (tool wise), and will volunteer the labor, snacks and a great time! Is there anyone in this area who needs the service done on their bike and would like the free service? You would need to purchase your own parts ahead of time, but we can "sho 'nuff" perform the task!

We could possibly do two in one day, but we'd have to start early. We could perform other services too as long as you bring your own parts! I have a lift and complete shop in my two car garage, so we'll sign up the first serious inquirers! Reply to this thread and I'll monitor it and set a date that works for all real soon. First come, first serve!

[sheldan2]

Jack, let me know on a date and I wil be glad to come up and help, either with slave cylinder or anthing else that might be needed. Any fluid change to HID install could be done with no problem

[cccpastorjack]

Jack, let me know on a date and I wil be glad to come up and help, either with slave cylinder or anthing else that might be needed. Any fluid change to HID install could be done with no problem


Mike,

Thanks for the offer. I will certainly take you up on it. My bike is doing great...had a great ride today and looking for a better one tomorrow. :D I'm glad to hear that your's is doing great too! I had a great time doing the Cylinders with you...and I'll look forward, as I know you will...to meeting some guys and sharing our experiences with them! I'll call soon to set a date!

[RonKMiller]

OK Guys...here's the deal. I live in Cornelius, NC (just north of Charlotte, NC) and myself and one other guy just replaced both of our Slave Cylinders and drilled weepholes in both bikes. Both went extremely smooth and each one took about 3-4 hours to perform. The second bike was much quicker! ;)

I would love to host a Tech Session to do this procedure at my garage. I have all the necessaries (tool wise), and will volunteer the labor, snacks and a great time! Is there anyone in this area who needs the service done on their bike and would like the free service? You would need to purchase your own parts ahead of time, but we can "sho 'nuff" perform the task!

We could possibly do two in one day, but we'd have to start early. We could perform other services too as long as you bring your own parts! I have a lift and complete shop in my two car garage, so we'll sign up the first serious inquirers! Reply to this thread and I'll monitor it and set a date that works for all real soon. First come, first serve!

If you folks could take some pictures (with lots of light!) from the beginning to the end with a narrative it would be a great help - and certainly appreciated by others. Worthy of posting in the Hall of Wisdom. Wish I was closer to y'all 'cause this is on my short list... :bmw:

[cccpastorjack]

If you folks could take some pictures (with lots of light!) from the beginning to the end with a narrative it would be a great help - and certainly appreciated by others. Worthy of posting in the Hall of Wisdom. Wish I was closer to y'all 'cause this is on my short list... :bmw:

Ron,

Here is a link to the thread containing the instructions that Mike and myself used to replace our Slave Cylinders and drill the weep holes. They are awesome and definately worthy of the Hall of Wisdom. Hhere's the link:

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14595&highlight=slave+cylinder

[RonKMiller]

Ron,

Here is a link to the thread containing the instructions that Mike and myself used to replace our Slave Cylinders and drill the weep holes. They are awesome and definately worthy of the Hall of Wisdom. Hhere's the link:

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14595&highlight=slave+cylinder

PERFECT! - I'll let El Jeffe know...

Thank you for the effort! :thumb:

[cccpastorjack]

OK GUYS...I guess no one needs their Slave Cylinder replaced?????? :eek: Anyone interested in any type of repairs/issues may post and we'll set up the tech session to perform it!

[wcarter]

Jack, what parts, fluids, etc. are needed? Sound like this might be a good preventative measure.

[bowlesj]

OK GUYS...I guess no one needs their Slave Cylinder replaced?????? :eek: Anyone interested in any type of repairs/issues may post and we'll set up the tech session to perform it!

Jack,

I know there are several people interested in the slave cylinder thing, especially with experience on hand. They probably just haven't chimed in yet. Personally, I'm waiting until I need to dig in that deep for other reasons or the warranty is up.

I'm going to be doing the 24K and annual very soon. I can handle the work but I'll be doing it incrementally due to time constraints. I would really enjoy meeting more of the locals and could probably accomplish some of the work at a tech session at your place. So, sign me up as a tentative attendee, based on date of course.

[herk402]

I don't need any service at the moment..just got a new motor and clutch w/cylinder..but would like to attend just to help & meet some local folks.

[cccpastorjack]

Jack, what parts, fluids, etc. are needed? Sound like this might be a good preventative measure.


This is a preventative maintenance issue and it is generally suggested that the Slave Cylinder be replaced around 40-50k miles. We would also be drilling a "weephole" that will allow the fluid to drain outside of the engine (just in case the slave cylinder ever leaked), instead of draining into the clutch area and ruining the clutch.
The parts cost about $100 - $120 which is a huge savings over the repair if the Slave Cylinder ever fails (approx $1,200 - $1,400). :D

You will need the following parts:
Qty. 1 - Clutch Slave Cylinder for your year bike
Qty. 4 - Aluminum Sealing washers where lines
attach to the new cylinder
Qty. 1 - Gasket for the Slave Cylinder
Qty. 1 - Qt. of Dot 4 Brake Fluid (approx.)

I have all the tools needed...specialty and otherwise. ;) If you want to sign up to do this on your bike, please let me know ASAP. I''ll then set a date that would work for both of us!

[oknplm]

I don't need any current work done on my LT. But if the schedule works out I would like to drive up from Atlanta to observe/help. Nothing like hands on experience and I might have to replace a clutch some day.

May we never find the end of the road!

Perry Ridgway

oknplm

[sparknme]

Hidee Ho Boys
Would love to attend but i'm 250 miles away on the coast. :( We just bought a 2000 LT with 30,000 miles on it. She has been dealer serviced, have all the receipts, so now it't time for me to start doing my own service. Got the book and the CD going to order the vedio's so let the adventure begain. I am 62 yo , looking forward to a new adventure in life so as we say in south east Texas" Laissez les bons temps rouler!" cajun for let the good times roll.
Joking a side I would like to make a tech session and espically the STC at Ironhorse in spring 2007.

Thanks for listening
Mike n Karen Burke
Coastal N.C.
2000 LT1200

[loflyn]

I'm interested in having my '99 done. It is at 32000+ miles and sounds like a good preventative measure. Let me check on parts availability. I am not available for Nov 11th due to Veteran's Day commitment. I live in Columbia, SC so the commute should be fairly short. Thanks for the offer. Terry Carr

[Steve_R]

Hidee Ho Boys
Would love to attend but i'm 250 miles away on the coast. :( We just bought a 2000 LT with 30,000 miles on it. She has been dealer serviced, have all the receipts, so now it't time for me to start doing my own service. Got the book and the CD going to order the vedio's so let the adventure begain. I am 62 yo , looking forward to a new adventure in life so as we say in south east Texas" Laissez les bons temps rouler!" cajun for let the good times roll.
Joking a side I would like to make a tech session and espically the STC at Ironhorse in spring 2007.

Thanks for listening
Mike n Karen Burke
Coastal N.C.
2000 LT1200Hey Mike, for some folks that's just a warm up before breakfast. ;) :)

[Bruce_N]

Gents- Keep me posted on a date for this event. I'm about 2 hours north of you in VA. I would like to attend if I'm free, mostly just to observe. Thanks.

[hagar]

I'd love to attend as well. I have an 03 LT with 15,000 miles on it, and not sure if I need it or not. Pick a date and let us know. Or wait till spring and there will be more motivated riders! ;)

[sparknme]

Holly Smokes Red Rider, oph's I mean red rover, in Texas Snellville,Ga is just a little peice up the road. Keep me posted, I'll be checking the forum for the lattest info. At 62 I'm just getting broke in. : :histerica Can't get the smiles to work!
Mike (who aint as limber as he used to be ) Burke
Coastal N.C.

[jwp767]

Jack-

I live very near in Cornelius and have just turned 50,000 on my 99KLT on the way back from Biketoberfest.

When my first rear drive went out at 16,000, they also replaced the clutch because they said they found a leaking seal. I'm not sure if the slave cylinder got done then or not, but with all the talk about ruining the clutch, I'd like to do the slave cylinder replacement and the weep hole procedure as a precaution.

I'll need to get the parts from Chicago BMW if that's still the best place.

I've read that Nov 11 might be a date for doing this? Basically I can do it whenever it suits after I get the parts that are needed.

[sheldan2]

It took me 2 weeks to get the parts from chicago bmw, for around $90 incl shipping, had to call every few days to check if they were shipped out yet.

[jwp767]

Mike- Thanks for the heads up on Chicago BMW...I'll get on it today and hopefully they already have the parts since quite a few people have been doing this across the country lately.

[kevincook]

It took me three weeks to get the parts from Chicago BMW when I ordered them in August. I wasn't really pleased with the service and I think I would rather pay the local dealer for better service.

Kevin

[rando]

I wouldn't mind knowing when some of these are being done. Would like to observe/help/meet others. If I can make it and ya'll don;t mind. Eventually do mine.

Rando

[Steve_R]

I hate to be the bearer of possible bad news, but I don't know that purchasing from you local dealer would be any better. The last two slaves that I had replaced at the dealer, they had to order the parts before they started the work. I was with out my LT for 8 days both times.

[UltraLT]

As a newby LT owner, sure would like to learn more about this bike and meet some locals. Count me in as an attendee depending on time and date. Thanks for offering.

Rich Lodge

Riding is life. All else is just waiting.

[jwp767]

If I can just get these dang parts together....we'll have a patient ready for the operating table.....!!

[kevincook]

I hate to be the bearer of possible bad news, but I don't know that purchasing from you local dealer would be any better. The last two slaves that I had replaced at the dealer, they had to order the parts before they started the work. I was with out my LT for 8 days both times.

I figured that they would have to order the parts but 8 days is a lot better than 3 weeks.

Kevin

[jwp767]

Javier at Chicago BMW just told me that all of the parts are in the country...don't have to come from Germany....and they can ship within 5 days. If you've bought stuff from them before, they'll use the faster ordering system to get the parts into Chicago within a day or 2 and then ship them right out to you. And you still get the full 20% off.

He said the total parts including the gasket, 4 seals, cylinder, and felt strip ($3.40 if your bike has one) totalled $88.68 + the usual $7-8 shipping.

[cccpastorjack]

I need a count on how many want to do the Slave Cylinder Replacement/Weephole procedure assuming parts get in on time. Once I have the first 3-4 spots reserved I will contact everyone interested and select a date that works. I'm easily located off a main hwy (I-77) in Cornelius NC and Mike Sheldon (a great guy and wonderful mechanic) is ready to helpout. Both of us have done the procedure twice, SOOO we should be able to do 3 or 4 if we make a day out of it!

First 3 or 4 to sign up...FIRST COME....FIRST SERVE!!!!

[jwp767]

Jack-

Consider me signed up with parts on the way. I left my phone #s on your answering machine this morning.

Thanks-

Wes

[JATownsend]

Hi Jack, I am very interested in getting this done...and you guys seem to have the experience it takes to make it happen.

If I'm not too far North, please add my name to your short list. Heh, its only 680 miles, and I can visit with my sister who just moved to Wallace, NC!

I'll order all needed parts in the morning. :bmw:

[jwp767]

As we say in these parts.....Wallace is WAY "down east" from here...probably 3-4 hours ride minimum from Cornelius.

[cccpastorjack]

We have two people signed up for the Slave Cylinder Replacement/Weephole procedure. They are:

1. WES PHILLIPS - '99 LT Riding in from Lake Norman, NC
2. J. AVERILL TOWNSEND '02 LT Riding in from Bloomfield Hills, MI (WOW!)
3. ________________________________________________________

If WES and AVERILL will confirm by a PM to me I will work immediatly with you to establish a date that will work for all (cold weather is coming soon). If you have not done so, PLEASE order your parts YESTERDAY and let me know of an expected arrival date on your PM.

We still have room for one more! Mike Sheldon is an excellent mechanic and my shop has room to do two bikes at one time. He will Lead/Assist on one bike and I on the other. I think we could do three bikes for sure...SO...who'll it be????? :rolleyes:

[UltraLT]

Jack,
would like to be counted in your limited number, but need to know when you are having it before I can commit.

Rich Lodge
Mint Hill, NC

[dandiver]

I'd gladly become that 3rd bike and offer (host) my 3 car garage and wide driveway if you'll move the tech session to Tampa. Warm weather and lots of sunshine! An easy 8 hour run.......... Maybe even supply refreshments of our traditional Cuban sandwiches...

[JATownsend]

If WES and AVERILL will confirm by a PM to me I will work immediatly with you to establish a date that will work for all (cold weather is coming soon). If you have not done so, PLEASE order your parts YESTERDAY and let me know of an expected arrival date on your PM.
PM sent Jack! :D

[wcarter]

Jack, I just sent you a PM. I'll have my parts today. Just let me know when you want to hold the session. Thanks for putting this together.

My local dealer, Touring Sport BMW, had all the parts in stock. Total price with sales tax was about $90. From what others have said, that seems like a fair price,with no waiting for shipping. I didn't ask if they had any more slave cylinders in stock today.

[cccpastorjack]

We now have three people signed up for the Slave Cylinder/weephole procedure and I will post the date VERY soon. Just need to contact all three with a few possible dates. All others are welcome to attend and may use the wide driveway to do other services if desired. Mike and myself (and I'm sure others) will be glad to assist as needed. ;) I have a complete manual (printed), so we'll be in good shape for any other procedures! Stay tuned and we'll "crank this sucker up"!!!

[hybridcage]

I'm bout an hour away and would love to come watch and learn. No need for services right now but excited bout having such a gathering in the area. I'll keep checking to see what date you choose......

[bowlesj]

I'm bout an hour away and would love to come watch and learn. No need for services right now but excited bout having such a gathering in the area. I'll keep checking to see what date you choose......

Hey Chris, good to see your still kickin. I hope to make it also. I've been meeting more and more LT'rs from around the state. Just met a fellow, another John, 3 miles away with an '06. He isn't a forum member yet, but hope he signs up. I'll probably see if he wants to head over as well.

[gunny]

Let us know when. I'll ride over and help, clean parts, whatever.

Gunny

[cccpastorjack]

Saturday, December 9th has been set as the date for the TECH SESSION!!! We have three signed up for Slave Cylinder Replacement/Weephole procedure. I have all the tools we need (unless someone has another one of the 30mm modified Sockets - please bring it). Others may look on, help out, or do maintenance on your own bikes if you bring your own parts. Mike Sheldon and myself (and others) will be glad to lead, guide or get out of the way as needed.

Heres My Address:

Jack Homesley
10009 Willow Leaf Lane
Cornelius, NC 28031

You can mapquest it for directions. PLEASE PLAN TO ARRIVE BY 8:00AM as we will have a FULL day. My cell phone # is 704-519-8991 if you needs directions on the way in. We'll have refreshments...great fun and a great time!

[cccpastorjack]

Saturday, December 9th has been set as the date for the TECH SESSION!!! We have three signed up for Slave Cylinder Replacement/Weephole procedure. I have all the tools we need (unless someone has another one of the 30mm modified Sockets - please bring it). Others may look on, help out, or do maintenance on your own bikes if you bring your own parts. Mike Sheldon and myself (and others) will be glad to lead, guide or get out of the way as needed.

Heres My Address:

Jack Homesley
10009 Willow Leaf Lane
Cornelius, NC 28031

You can mapquest it for directions. PLEASE PLAN TO ARRIVE BY 8:00AM as we will have a FULL day. My cell phone # is 704-519-8991 if you needs directions on the way in. We'll have refreshments...great fun and a great time!

Just thought I might like to mention that I have all tools needed and anyone and everyone is invited to attend. Should be a great time. Mike Sheldon and others will be here to assist with many different types of services, maintenance issues, upgrades, etc.

[bowlesj]

Well damn! I'll be in Minnesota that weekend. Sorry to miss it.

Have fun.

[hybridcage]

Bet you aren't riding there John..........

[cccpastorjack]

Bet you aren't riding there John..........


Hey Chris,

Will you be riding in from Hiddenite to the tech session?

[hybridcage]

I thought I would ride down to try and gain some knowledge and meet some folks on the board, I have another LTer who probably will come if that's cool...

[bowlesj]

Bet you aren't riding there John..........

Naw, sorry to say you're right Chris.

Some places do Christmas really early:)

Have fun.

[cccpastorjack]

I thought I would ride down to try and gain some knowledge and meet some folks on the board, I have another LTer who probably will come if that's cool...


Hey Chris...I'll look forward to getting to meet you and hopefully, your friend. The session if open to everyone! Invite everyone you know!

[cccpastorjack]

Our tech session is a go for Deember 9th! Address is posted earlier in the thread for those who want to come. All are invited for a great day!

[rando]

I was going to come watch and learn and meet others, but turns out that we have a gymnastics meet for our daughter that day.

Hope ya'll have fun!!! See ya on the road somewhere!!!

Randy

[cccpastorjack]

I was going to come watch and learn and meet others, but turns out that we have a gymnastics meet for our daughter that day.

Hope ya'll have fun!!! See ya on the road somewhere!!!

Randy


Randy,

I understand that fully and I think it's commendable. bikes will wait, children won't! Have a blessed time with her and I'll be praying that she'll medal! :D I'm proud of you for being a great Dad! ;)

[rando]

Thanks. My familiy is more important than the motorcycle. Although it's nice when they come and ask if we can go for a ride. Our daughter has medaled a few times this season and won one event. WE're hoping for good results again this weekend in Fayetteville. She's pretty stout kid for a 11 yr old. She's as stout as a fireplug. Them little gymnasts are solid muscle.

Thanks for the thoughts.
Randy

[herk402]

I can make it. May not be there at 8 exactly but pretty early. No service needed but would like to help/learn/watch. Any one heading from Fayettville, Sanford, Raleigh area let me know for breakfast and a group ride.
414-870-2942

[cccpastorjack]

I can make it. May not be there at 8 exactly but pretty early. No service needed but would like to help/learn/watch. Any one heading from Fayettville, Sanford, Raleigh area let me know for breakfast and a group ride.
414-870-2942

Hope you can bring a few from that area. We can use all the help we can get! :D Mike and myself worked on his bike a little today. We are set up and ready to go. Anyone needing work...PLEASE REMEMBER TO BRING ALL YOUR OWN PARTS. It's coming SOON!

[ronlray]

Pastor Jack, I live in Lexington SC and have a 2004 LT with 30,000 miles. I'd love to have the weep hole drilled in mine as I try to do all the preventive maintenance I can ,myself. Today is 11/22/06 and I didn't catch when you are having the session. I'd be glad to offer my bike up as the example. Please contact me directly at ronraysc@yahoo.com as I figure I am about 2 hours from your doorstep. Thanks, Ron Ray

[jwp767]

We're scheduled for December 9....check 7 posts up from this one......There are already 3 bikes scheduled, but come anyway and learn how it's done and if a slot opens up, you might be able to get yours done too.

[sheldan2]

Ronlray, would be glad to have you come up, if you dont mind doing a bit of the preliminary work, while we are getting the other bikes apart, ie. taking off the tire, and rear foot plates etc, and we can help you with what needs to come off, then just drilling a weep hole should not be a big deal as we dont need to bleed the clutch, which takes a bit of time. Then once the hole is drilled and we get the swing arm on you can zip it back together again in about 30 min.

[ronlray]

Pastor Jack, I'm planning on coming up on the 9th.Probably will bring a buddy with me.It's gonna be cold leaving Columbia at 6am to get to you by 8am but we'll make it! Can you post the address and the GPS coordinates. Thanks, Ron Ray

[bowlesj]

Pastor Jack, I'm planning on coming up on the 9th.Probably will bring a buddy with me.It's gonna be cold leaving Columbia at 6am to get to you by 8am but we'll make it! Can you post the address and the GPS coordinates. Thanks, Ron Ray

Ron, see post #42 this thread for Jack's address.


BTW others, it looks like I might be able to make it. I'm scheduled to get back from Minnesota Friday night. Hope to see you all there.

[cccpastorjack]

Pastor Jack, I'm planning on coming up on the 9th.Probably will bring a buddy with me.It's gonna be cold leaving Columbia at 6am to get to you by 8am but we'll make it! Can you post the address and the GPS coordinates. Thanks, Ron Ray


Ron,
Thanks for the interest and I sure hope you'll be able to attend. My address is 10009 Willow Leaf Lane, Cornelius, North Carolina 28031. My cell is 704-519-8991

Come on up and we'll do as many as we can! My garage is heated and Mike is right in his previous post, I have a concrete drive and for those who could go ahead with the prep work in the drive (weather permitting) we can drill the holes pretty quick! God bless!

[jeffklt]

Ron,
Thanks for the interest and I sure hope you'll be able to attend. My address is 10009 Willow Leaf Lane, Cornelius, North Carolina 28031. My cell is 704-519-8991

Come on up and we'll do as many as we can! My garage is heated and Mike is right in his previous post, I have a concrete drive and for those who could go ahead with the prep work in the drive (weather permitting) we can drill the holes pretty quick! God bless!

35.46058N
80.86101W
Give or take

[ronlray]

PastorJack, after all the trouble I've put you guys through, looks like I won't be able to make the tech session. I just found out from my Boss (wife) that my 1 year old granddaughter is having a Birthday party that day. OH Well!
Would love to meet you and your fellow riders so please keep me on your short list if you do this again. I appreciate all you guys have done . Have Fun! Ron Ray

[petepeterson]

Now I don't care who you are,,, That right there is funny!!!!!!!!! :histerica :histerica ....Pete

[cccpastorjack]

Saturday, December 9th has been set as the date for the TECH SESSION!!! We have three signed up for Slave Cylinder Replacement/Weephole procedure. I have all the tools we need (unless someone has another one of the 30mm modified Sockets - please bring it). Others may look on, help out, eat doughnuts or do maintenance on your own bikes if you bring your own parts. Mike Sheldon and myself (and others) will be glad to lead, guide or get out of the way as needed.

Heres My Address:

Jack Homesley
10009 Willow Leaf Lane
Cornelius, NC 28031

You can mapquest it for directions. PLEASE PLAN TO ARRIVE BY 8:00AM as we will have a FULL day. My cell phone # is 704-519-8991 if you needs directions on the way in. We'll have refreshments...great fun and a great time!

[cccpastorjack]

I just thought it might be helpful to have two... See ya all on the 9th! Looks like we have at least 15 riders attending. Hope the weather holds out for us...IT WAS 74 Degrees today!!!! :D

[JATownsend]

I just thought it might be helpful to have two... See ya all on the 9th! Looks like we have at least 15 riders attending. Hope the weather holds out for us...IT WAS 74 Degrees today!!!! :D
Jack:

I have a Dave Shealey *Special* cutaway socket and allen. I'll be bringing it with me along with my normal traveling tools.

Keep that warm weather comin'!! :D

[sheldan2]

Everyone who is coming to Jacks place, ride safe, get here in one piece.

[cccpastorjack]

Jack:

I have a Dave Shealey *Special* cutaway socket and allen. I'll be bringing it with me along with my normal traveling tools.

Keep that warm weather comin'!! :D


Averill,

I'll try to put in an order for a couple of warm days, but we have been expecially blessed lately! It was about 78 degrees today and the grass is GREEN! We have a storm front moving through in the next couple of days, but we'll wait and see. God bless!

[cccpastorjack]

Hey guys,

I need YOUR input...that is, those who are planning to attend. I know it is still about 6 days out and things could change, but the weather is predicted to be a very cold, hard rain. Help me make the call. Should we set a "rain date" during Jan/Feb????? Just in case??? :confused: PLEASE let me know ASAP and we'll go with the majority.

[bowlesj]

Hey guys,

I need YOUR input...that is, those who are planning to attend. I know it is still about 6 days out and things could change, but the weather is predicted to be a very cold, hard rain. Help me make the call. Should we set a "rain date" during Jan/Feb????? Just in case??? :confused: PLEASE let me know ASAP and we'll go with the majority.

As long as it isn't ice I'll be there. Only 75 miles for me though. Also, I'm not seeing a lot of rain. Lows high 20's, high's mid 50's. After stepping off the plane from MN Friday night, I think it will feel quite balmy:)

What about Averill? What is his situation? Is he actually riding down. If so, he's committed on Friday isn't he?

A rain date could be set later, I think we should consider a drop dead go/no go time and date, so everyone has time to react.

[ramlin]

My "05" failed at 28k. The dealer replaced everything under warranty. I asked him to drill the weep hole and he wouldn't do it or allow me to do it in his shop. I asked if the new parts would resolve the issue and was told the replacement parts were the same as stock. Has anyone had second failure? My gut tells me I should do the procedure to insure no other clutch failures. Thoughts?

[cccpastorjack]

My "05" failed at 28k. The dealer replaced everything under warranty. I asked him to drill the weep hole and he wouldn't do it or allow me to do it in his shop. I asked if the new parts would resolve the issue and was told the replacement parts were the same as stock. Has anyone had second failure? My gut tells me I should do the procedure to insure no other clutch failures. Thoughts?



Yes...without a doubt I would drill the weephole. ESPECIALLY since you have all new parts installed. You want to protect them. Now...my only hesitation would be if the drilling would void your warranty. Not sure if it will. And BTW...we just installed a replacement cylinder on Mike Sheldan's bike and quess what...it failed. So, yes, a replacement is the SAME as stock. They tend to fail.

[cccpastorjack]

Allright..I have a lot of replies and PM'S and what I'll do is watch the weather and unless it is going to be a downpour AND cold, we'll go ahead. I'll post on Wednesday...before noon EST!!! Looking forward to it!

[cccpastorjack]

Here's the latest weather report for my area of North Carolina:

Thursday Night
Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the mid 20s.
Friday through Saturday
Mostly clear. Highs in the mid 40s. Lows around 20.
Saturday Night through Monday
Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Highs in the mid 50s.


IT's looking better, but still way out. Tomorrow I'll make the FINAL call.

[cccpastorjack]

Men...the weather, although a bit cold, is holding out for us and the Tech Session is ON for this coming Saturday at 8:00 AM!!!
Here is the latest weather report:


FRIDAY - Mostly Sunny - Highs in the lower 40's

SATURDAY - Mostly Clear - Highs in the upper 40's to lower 50's

Se 'ya on Saturday Morning! I'll have hot coffee waiting and the Garage warmed!

Jack Homesley
10009 Willow Leaf Lane
Cornelius, NC 28031

(704) 519-8991 (cell)

[JATownsend]

Jack:

There are over 2400 viewings of this thread...WOW! That's more than Joe gets!! ;)

Anyway, I'm still planning on being there. The snow we had has melted off the driveway and the business cloud is clearing.

Hope to see you and your warm garage on Saturday morn! :D

[Powerman]

Jack,

I've been watching/reading the thread. It looks like the weather will hold so if nothing major come up I plan on heading out from the DC area on Friday and ride that way. Will spend the night in your area and be at your place on Saturday morning at 8 AM. I plan on departing around 2 PM on Saturday and stopping to visit friends in Durham area and then on back to DC on Sunday. I don't need any work done just want to meet up with other LT riders and see what they have done to their bikes. (laffs really just want to ride before the serious weather sets in!)

[WMann]

Hi Guys,

I will be attending along with a friend on Saturday. We waited till now to respond to this thread in an effort to get a better feel for what the weather was going to do. We are both just south of Greensboro NC so we only have about 90 miles or so. I am not sure at this point wether or not we will be on our LTs or in a cage with enviromental controls.

We both already have weep holes drilled in our bikes so we just want to see some more LT guys.



Wayne Mann

[wcarter]

I'm planning to leave before 6:00 a.m. on Saturday to make the trip up from Greenville. Memo to me: Set Heat-Troller to "nuclear".

I ordered a Centech AP-1 with relay from Eastern Beaver in hopes that I could have it installed before the trip (to permanently wire in my heated seat). As of yesterday it had not shown up so I guess I'm back to my cobbled-up BMW plug connection. Somebody please remind me to shut all that heated gear off when I get to the tech session, or I'm gonna need a jump.

[charlieg]

Jack and gang,

Looks like the weather is going to be tolerable. I plan on leaving Daytona Friday afternoon and will see you all at 8:00 am Saturday. I'll have all my tools except the 30mm, hope you can squeeze me in for just the weep hole.
-Chuck-

[cccpastorjack]

Averill,

I am amazed at your courage! Just be careful coming through the mountains. We are getting a little snow there this evening (not here), but the roads SHOULD be clear. Just everyone...PLEASE BE CAREFUL...it will be cold and clear. Cold enough to freeze and create BLACK ICE. Let's all arrive here and back home safely - - 100% intact.


Averill, we will jump on your bike 1st since you have to leave early! I'm prayin' for 'ya!!! ;)




Jack:

There are over 2400 viewings of this thread...WOW! That's more than Joe gets!! ;)

Anyway, I'm still planning on being there. The snow we had has melted off the driveway and the business cloud is clearing.

Hope to see you and your warm garage on Saturday morn! :D

[cccpastorjack]

Hey Chuck...we have a pretty full slate, but you never now who will show and who will cancel. ;) We'll do the best we can to fit it in if there's space and time! RIDE CAREFUL!


Jack and gang,

Looks like the weather is going to be tolerable. I plan on leaving Daytona Friday afternoon and will see you all at 8:00 am Saturday. I'll have all my tools except the 30mm, hope you can squeeze me in for just the weep hole.
-Chuck-

[cccpastorjack]

Hey Guys...

Just so you know, I'll have plenty of hot coffee and snacks. There'll also be free pizza for lunch and guess what???? I bought the ISLE OF MANN TT video game for my Sony Playstation. We'll hook it up to the LARGE SCREEN and you can "ride" the Isle of Mann at 175 mph....Whew...it's a blast and fairly realistic!!!! Really cool game. Of course, that'll be something for some to do while others are working!

[herk402]

Man.....Gunna be a cold ride......still on?

[sheldan2]

Yes it is still a go, everyone be carefull getting here, watch for the cages with frost on all windows except for a small section on the drivers side, lots of them out in the morning around clt

[jwp767]

Hurry on over....it's 730am and 30 minutes until the fun begins! Garage has been warmed up and 2 lifts are ready to go.

See you there.......

Wes

[oknplm]

Just got back to Atlanta and thought I would post a few pictures of the Tech Session that Jack Homesley hosted today. Despite the cold morning weather, 16 degrees when I left Atlanta at 4:00 AM this morning, there was quite a few riders coming and going. I would provide the names but I wasn't taking notes and would not want to wrongly misspell or miss someone.

Thanks Jack for your hospitality and creating an opportunity to meet a few of the Carolina LT riders. Here are some of the pictures.

May we never find the end of the road!

Perry Ridgway

oknplm

[Morley]

Heh. his neighbors must love him...There were what, 8 bikes in the driveway and street. :eek: My neighbor would have either called the cops or threatened to "report me to the city"....Can't get much more rural than where I live.

[cccpastorjack]

...WHAT A BLAST! :D

I'll give a more detailed report tomorrow, but I could not go to bed without saying "THANK YOU" to everyone who attended and DShealy who helped with technical advice.

I am new to the BMW Community, but I must admit that everyone at the session was a real blessing to me. Very gracious, eager to help, friendly! In typical behavior, one rider, Weyman Carter, said to another, "You take my slot to get your cylinder changed and weephole drilled." He just gave it up! And guess what, Terry's cylinder was leaking when we opened her up. Just in time! ;) Weyman, your generosity saved him a bundle! We''l get your's soon!

Everyone helped in some way. Everyone had a great attitude and we got a LOT of work done for the time we had together. I am absolutely SURE we saved two riders from sure catastrophic failures down the road.

We finished:
3 Slave cylinder/weephole procedures
1 Transmission output shaft seal replacement (leaking profusely)
Several Clutch fluid changes
1 Integrated Brake Fluid change
Checked out Wes' Steering Damper - (couldn't fix due to lack of parts)

I also learned some valuable lessons (at great expense of the crowd!):

A) An LT Final Drive will go onto the bike W/O being engaged into
the driveshaft :o

B) An LT will NOT move W/O the Rear Drive being engaged into the
Driveshaft :mad:

C) If you are A.D.D., it is hard to concentrate and work on bikes in a big
crowd! :D

Anyway...I'm going to rest. Please guys...give a report if you attended. Good or bad, I need to know where we can improve. And thanks again to all...I thoroughly enjoyed the day! :sleep:

A learning BMW apprentice,

[bowlesj]

Heh. his neighbors must love him...There were what, 8 bikes in the driveway and street. :eek: My neighbor would have either called the cops or threatened to "report me to the city"....Can't get much more rural than where I live.

Oh and a lot more showed up. It was difficult maneuvering in and out of the garage. At least 15 or 16 bikes outside including one Harley.

Thanks a lot for hosting the session Jack.

Great to meet the rest of you.

[hschisler]

Free food? Sony Playstation? Large-screen TV? Heated garage? TWO LIFTS?

Holy cow, Jack has raised the bar on Tech Sessions. He has raised the expectation level for future attendees. We'll have to provide champagne and caviar for the next one!

Good job, Jack. :thumb:

[sheldan2]

Special thanks to Jack for being a great host and friend, thanks to everyone who showed up and helped make today a success.

[jwp767]

Thanks Jack for a great time as usual....and a lot of work was accomplished to boot.

While my slave cylinder was dry as a bone.....at least we both discovered and had a good laugh about what happens when the driveshaft doesn't make a proper seat into the final drive!!!

Glad I was able to bring my Handy lift over so we could have 2 adventures going on simultaniously.

[meese]

Looks like y'all had fun.

Who makes the red lift? It sure looked heavy-duty.

[cccpastorjack]

Free food? Sony Playstation? Large-screen TV? Heated garage? TWO LIFTS?

Holy cow, Jack has raised the bar on Tech Sessions. He has raised the expectation level for future attendees. We'll have to provide champagne and caviar for the next one!

Good job, Jack. :thumb:


Mainly, we just wanted to have a good day and get a lot of work and fellowship going! We certainly did that! I personally had a great time. Oh yeah, and I forgot to tell you about the Lady from our church who brought by an entire basket of freshly, home-baked goodies. ALL made from scratch! MMMMMm MMMMMMMm, GOOD! :D

[UltraLT]

Jack,
It was frigid morning when I arrived, but the company warmed me up real quick. It was a great opportunity to learn about my bike (i am also new to the LT) and meet some really outstanding people. I really appreciate your hosting this event and look forward to another one I can attend.

Rich Lodge
Ultra LT

[cccpastorjack]

Jack,
It was frigid morning when I arrived, but the company warmed me up real quick. It was a great opportunity to learn about my bike (i am also new to the LT) and meet some really outstanding people. I really appreciate your hosting this event and look forward to another one I can attend.

Rich Lodge
Ultra LT

...I had a great time too. Were you there long enough to witness the "snafu" with the driveshaft on Wes Phillip's bike? AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! :o

Thanks for coming by and enjoying the event with us. It was really great.

BTW - WILL ANYONE WHO TOOK PICS PLEASE POST THEM OR EMAIL SOME TO ME AT CCCPASTORJACK@YAHOO.COM Thanks again to everyone!

[herk402]

Thanks Jack for hosting the event. Sorry I got over late & had to leave early. I will definitely come to the next one. Would love to get on the list for the next weep hole & maybe some shocks. You and the guys did a great job setting the whole thing up ...I wouldn't change a thing. Interesting deal with the drive shaft....Hmmmm

[cccpastorjack]

Looks like y'all had fun.

Who makes the red lift? It sure looked heavy-duty.


The Lift is manufactered by Ranger. Not quite sure where to get one...it was a gift! :D

[loflyn]

Jack

It was great meeting you and all the others. Special thanks to Weyman for giving up his slot. I know it saved me big bucks. I had a cold but great ride home. For those interested, my bike is a '99 with 33K. It appears that my slave cyclinder was just starting to leak. Thanks again Jack for your hospitality and mechanical knowlege.

Terry

[Steve_R]

You can find the lift at Ranger Products (http://www.rangerproducts.com/) under Jacks/Specialty.