The Games have begun!!

[NOGILLS2]

Just finished my first of three weekends of MSF instructor school. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I managed to pass the riding exam, it was humiliating to say the least, sobering at best.

We looked like a bunch of rookies on the range. I am glad it is over, I have a lot of practice on the range ahead of me.

I am excited about the course, and looking forward to completing it, hoping to keep a good attitude through the course.

[patrick2000]

The more you do it the easier it gets. Remember that many of the skills required for a "perfect" riding demonstration are much different what we use every day. Training others to ride is a different paradigm and the skills needed to be able to perform on command in front of an audience come with repetition, repetition and more.... In ten years as an instructor ,teaching various types of courses, I have had very few demos that I was completely satisfied with. There is always room for improvement. Cut yourself some slack, you'll be an expert before you realise it.

[jgburns]

Just finished my first of three weekends of MSF instructor school. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I managed to pass the riding exam, it was humiliating to say the least, sobering at best.

We looked like a bunch of rookies on the range. I am glad it is over, I have a lot of practice on the range ahead of me.

I am excited about the course, and looking forward to completing it, hoping to keep a good attitude through the course....slow speed maneuvers? Is that what I should expect if I take the experienced rider course?

I'm a big fan of Proficient Motorcycling, other Hough books, and practice, but I've never taken a riding course. My insurance premium would benefit, so I'm looking to take the ERC on my LT. Maybe I'll be humilated.

[NOGILLS2]

Actualy John The hardest part of the course is changing the way you think and the habits you have, to the proper way of operating your bike. When taking the course have your attitude adjusted so you are open to new ways of doing things.

I imagine that somewhere in there you will develop new skills and new habits, as you see the correct way to do things.

What I have found is I have developed short cuts to doing certain operations, like using the front brake, I tend to use one finger for the front brake, well on the LT you dont need a lot of pressure to operate the brakes, but on other bikes it takes a lot more pressure, and I should use propper tecnique to demonstrate for new riders to mimick.

[patrick2000]

...slow speed maneuvers? Is that what I should expect if I take the experienced rider course?

I'm a big fan of Proficient Motorcycling, other Hough books, and practice, but I've never taken a riding course. My insurance premium would benefit, so I'm looking to take the ERC on my LT. Maybe I'll be humilated.

Yoi might want to read the entire post. He is talking about "Instructor Training"
not general rider training like the ERC, BRC, ART, IRT,RSP, ,or MRC.

[jgburns]

Yoi might want to read the entire post. He is talking about "Instructor Training"
not general rider training like the ERC, BRC, ART, IRT,RSP, ,or MRC.... I figured he was qualified to comment on the ERC ... is that o.k. with you?

[jgburns]

Actualy John The hardest part of the course is changing the way you think and the habits you have, to the proper way of operating your bike. When taking the course have your attitude adjusted so you are open to new ways of doing things.

I imagine that somewhere in there you will develop new skills and new habits, as you see the correct way to do things.

What I have found is I have developed short cuts to doing certain operations, like using the front brake, I tend to use one finger for the front brake, well on the LT you dont need a lot of pressure to operate the brakes, but on other bikes it takes a lot more pressure, and I should use propper tecnique to demonstrate for new riders to mimick.... I imagaine that I've hot a good number of habits that should be corrected. Hopefully, this old dog can learn new tricks.

[McRuss]

I was an MSF Instructor for a number of years in AZ and then a Rider Coach, the new terminology, and the title for which you are being trained. It was the most fullfilling job I've ever had and I only left it because I moved out too far from any of the ranges. And there are more facilities doing it in San Antonio than there are students, many of the classes are during the week when I couldn't coach. But it was real fun!

[baurcorp]

I took the ERC, it was a great eye opener. I think anyone who takes it would benefit. It's designed for "experienced rider" and the bonus of insurance discount!

[NOGILLS2]

tonight we graduated from class, now I have more hoops to jump through! I am looking forward to teaching the class now!

[tmgs]

Just finished my first of three weekends of MSF instructor school. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I managed to pass the riding exam, it was humiliating to say the least, sobering at best.

We looked like a bunch of rookies on the range. I am glad it is over, I have a lot of practice on the range ahead of me.

I am excited about the course, and looking forward to completing it, hoping to keep a good attitude through the course.

good luck with it, we both went to be instructors, then between the move and the politics of it all we let our certs expire, really wanted to keep doing it though, ya know to give something back to the mc community and make a few bucks doing it

[Dick]

tonight we graduated from class, now I have more hoops to jump through! I am looking forward to teaching the class now!
A buncha *atta boys* your way, Floyd. Have way much fun. :)

[NOGILLS2]

Thanks Dick and TMGS

[Texas42]

Congratulations!!!!!!

With all of these former, new and current Rider Coaches in our part of the country, it sure would be nice if you guys put together an LT ERC for us lesser mortals to learn how to handle an LT. I took the ERC on my Bonny and the Sprint, and plan on taking it on the GS but the instructor locally didn't think that it was a good idea to try it on the LT. I usually take it about 6 months after I get a different bike. :)

[tmgs]

Congratulations!!!!!!

With all of these former, new and current Rider Coaches in our part of the country, it sure would be nice if you guys put together an LT ERC for us lesser mortals learn how to handle an LT. I took the ERC on my Bonny and the Sprint, and plan on taking it on the GS but the instructor locally didn't think that it was a good idea to try it on the LT. I usually take it about 6 months after I get a different bike. :)


Your instructor didn't think it was a good idea to do it on the lt? was that after he saw you riding <big silly grin>
You are talking about the MSF ERC right? if you are comfortable with your K12LT then take it.

We in the southeast forum did put a ERC together in Florida through my friends at adventureridertraining.com, some of the riders had some reservations about doing it on the lt. Untill Jeff (who happens to be pretty short) hopped on my LT, which he had never rode a K1200LT before and started doing really tight circles on it, then all went pretty well and fun.

There were pics someplace on this site at some time, we had fun, 10 lt's 1 Rt and 1 cruiser if I remember correctly

Tom

[cfell]

Yeee haww! Congrats! you are going to have a ball!

[Steve_R]

Your instructor didn't think it was a good idea to do it on the lt? was that after he saw you riding <big silly grin>
You are talking about the MSF ERC right? if you are comfortable with your K12LT then take it.

We in the southeast forum did put a ERC together in Florida through my friends at adventureridertraining.com, some of the riders had some reservations about doing it on the lt. Untill Jeff (who happens to be pretty short) hopped on my LT, which he had never rode a K1200LT before and started doing really tight circles on it, then all went pretty well and fun.

There were pics someplace on this site at some time, we had fun, 10 lt's 1 Rt and 1 cruiser if I remember correctly

TomHe quits smokin' and his rememberer gets better. ;) Here's the graduation picture. BTW, one LT was two up for the whole ERC.

[tmgs]

He quits smokin' and his rememberer gets better. ;) Here's the graduation picture. BTW, one LT was two up for the whole ERC.

Ahh but only 9 lt's one RT
and a Cruiser (THAT IS NOT IN THE PIC)

For some reason I thought we had 12 in that class

Tom

[tmgs]

... I imagaine that I've hot a good number of habits that should be corrected. Hopefully, this old dog can learn new tricks.

the hardest for me , was keeping my clutch hand peroperly set wether it be covering the lever or engaging the clutch, sometimes I just forget i was supposed ot have a hand over it at all let alone use it!

too many years of riding holding my ass off that rigid i guess <grin>

[Steve_R]

The cruiser was someone you buddy put in the class so that he could get his FL M/C license and the other LT disappeared about half way through the day, so he wasn't there for graduation. So your 'memberer ain't workin' as good as I thought. :p

[tmgs]

Thanks Dick and TMGS


Shoot your going to have a good time doing it!

[Texas42]

I know there aren't any rides at CCR, but there is a captive audience for a ERC for the local MSF School?