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fitsman
Sep 24th, 2006, 5:04 pm
I left my bike in the garage for 7 days while on a trip. I have the Dice unit hooked up. My battery was dead when I got home. Could it have done it?
rhshue
Sep 24th, 2006, 5:22 pm
It takes 3 days with the ipod, and about 5 days without the ipod connected to drain the battery down enough to not start. You can try complaining to them, but they don't the problem.
fitsman
Sep 25th, 2006, 2:46 pm
It takes 3 days with the ipod, and about 5 days without the ipod connected to drain the battery down enough to not start. You can try complaining to them, but they don't the problem.
I had 7.5 days without an iPod...dead as a door nail.
Next question, Could this damage my battery? I put it on the tricle charger last night and it went from charging to float, so I think I am ok.
Tom_Becker
Sep 25th, 2006, 2:51 pm
I'm not familar with the current drain from the Dice. I have one of the early iceLinks. Regardless, recognize that with or withouth the Dice the K1200 has a fairly hefty parasitic (power needed to support electronics when not in use) current draw.
If you are not using a battery tender I'd recommend doing so. When I garage my beast she is on battery tender "life support".
Tom
jwd98056
Sep 25th, 2006, 4:38 pm
Every automotive battery warrenty I have ever seen, including Odyssey, states that completely discharging the battery voids the warrenty. That alone says that it most likely damaged the battery. Lead acid batteries, even the deep cycle variety, do not hold up well if they are completely discharged. Most standard automotive batteries are warrentied to deliver so many discharge cycles at some level of discharge typically 80%.
That doesn't mean you can't still get some use out of it but it also means you have probably lost some percentage of the rated charge capacity, voltage or the longevity.
I like many other have put the Dension devices on a switched power source to elimininate this potential problem.
Next question, Could this damage my battery?
fitsman
Sep 30th, 2006, 7:49 pm
I like many other have put the Dension devices on a switched power source to elimininate this potential problem.
Which wire in the connector is the power? I assume you pull that wire out of the connector and put in one that is connected to switched power.
gfrankum
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:54 am
I just finished checking my battery with my Dice Set Up
9/26 12.94 volts
9/27 12.78 volts
9/28 12.68 volts
9/29 12.61 volts
9/30 12.54 volts
10/1 12.46 volts
The Dice unit is powered from the CD player plug,
2000LT
Oydessy battery (new 8/2005)
Ipod Nano
I went thru 3 Icelink units, then Dension finally replaced it with the Dice Unit
So far I am happy.
The Dice unit did not liked being hooked up to switched power
astuber
Oct 2nd, 2006, 12:26 pm
I have to second the comment about the parasitic current draw on the LT. When I first got the LT, I left it in the garage for 4 days. It did not have enough power left in the battery to start after this. I had the dealer check it out and they said that the battery load tested OK. They reminded me that I need to make sure that the handle bars were locked when I parked. I purchased a Battery Tender and leave it connected all of the time now and haven't had any further issues.
I had to disconnect the battery recently to resolve an issue with the radio and was really surprised at the spark from the battery cable when I reconnected the cable. There must be a large load on the battery when off.
YMMV.
dmatson
Nov 11th, 2006, 5:28 pm
When my LT sits for a while I just un plug my IceLink there are two plugs that the loom plugs into from the changer loom the small plug is the power plug. Just un plug and no more problems, except the normal drain that the LT has.
Hulkster
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:57 pm
I thought I read somewhere that it is best to turn the key all way off and lock wheel. This will kill any gremblins at night vs turning it to off without locking wheel.
Is this true... Please confirm..
meese
Nov 13th, 2006, 1:06 am
Yes, some circuits remain live even with the key off (radio, for example). Locking the forks disconnects most of these and is the safest way if the bike will sit for more than an hour or so. But there are still a few things live even with the forks locked. One of these is the CD changer (to allow for removing CDs while parked). Since the Dension modules connect to the CD changer harness they are always live, regardless of key position. That will probably be OK overnight, but can cause problems over several days.
I always lock my forks unless I'm just stopping for gas and have never needed a battery charger.
cwildman
Nov 20th, 2006, 9:42 pm
A one year old Odyssey Battery was killed by the ICE unit (wouldn't take a recharge after several complete discharge cycles).
I added a toggle switch to disconnect three of the wires between the ICE and the battery to stop the problem.
I'm really don't like the ICE unit, and since I have a BC-1 radio unit with the cassette tape unit, I use the $20 Belkin solution which works just fine.
Chuck
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