Want CCR in your area? Read this.

[eljeffe]

I'll wait for Randy to post the official RFP requriements (as the only copy I have is from 2004), but the basic requirements are:

1. single hotel with at least 300 rooms
2. banquet facilities to support more than 600 attendees
3. decent riding circuits in the area
4. reasonable room prices (somewhere between the $75-$130/night range)

There are others, such as:

- parking for 300+ motorcycles
- area for outdoor and indoor vendors
- meeting rooms for seminars and tech sessions
- central area for registration and merchandise
- activities other than riding at the hotel

[JCabranes]

The American Club in Kohler Wisconsin, I believe meets all of the criteria. If any of you come to the MOA Rally in West Bend next year I'll be happy to run you out and show you the place. The Holy Hill Area has some great riding plus Road America in Elkhart Lake is nearby and you may be able to arrange a track day.

[eljeffe]

The American Club in Kohler Wisconsin, I believe meets all of the criteria. If any of you come to the MOA Rally in West Bend next year I'll be happy to run you out and show you the place. The Holy Hill Area has some great riding plus Road America in Elkhart Lake is nearby and you may be able to arrange a track day.

Looks like a neat place, but it only has 240 rooms and the banquet hall would be a tight fit.

[hoog62]

We've got facilities around here that fit all of those requirements, except for that pesky #3....

I could route out a few KILLER on ramps; there would more than likely be a rental car stopped at the end though.

[eljeffe]

We've got facilities around here that fit all of those requirements, except for that pesky #3....

I could route out a few KILLER on ramps; there would more than likely be a rental car stopped at the end though.

That's the same thing Omaha had to offer. :rotf:

[hoog62]

That's the same thing Omaha had to offer. :rotf:

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[Texas42]

Cindy suggests the Chetola Mountain Resort, I don't know if it has everything that is required but #3 is not a problem.

http://www.chetola.com/

[Randy]

Cindy suggests the Chetola Mountain Resort, I don't know if it has everything that is required but #3 is not a problem.

http://www.chetola.com/The meeting space will acomodate 150, so it would be a little tight for 600 ;)

[eljeffe]

Cindy suggests the Chetola Mountain Resort, I don't know if it has everything that is required but #3 is not a problem.

http://www.chetola.com/

50 Lodge rooms, and then you'd have to spread everyone out amongst the 200 or so condos.

[JeffB]

The Homestead (http://www.thehomestead.com/) is a nice destination resort with excellent food, golf, hiking, spa and salon, etc. Being in the Blue ridge there's lots of nice riding in the area. My biggest concern would be parking as they usually valet cars to a gravel lot a couple hundred yards away.

[eljeffe]

The Homestead (http://www.thehomestead.com/) is a nice destination resort with excellent food, golf, hiking, spa and salon, etc. Being in the Blue ridge there's lots of nice riding in the area. My biggest concern would be parking as they usually valet cars to a gravel lot a couple hundred yards away.

Rates are a little high, but that can usually be negotiated down. The one concern I have is their dress code:

During the day, casual resort attire (shirts with collars and khakis) is preferred. Jeans, bathing suits and ski boots are discouraged in the Great Hall. You may wear resort attire to the Spa, where robes and slippers are provided. In the evening, jacket and tie are required in the Dining Room and jackets elsewhere. Casual resort attire is welcomed at Sam Snead's Tavern and the Players Pub.

[Dick]

Rates are a little high, but that can usually be negotiated down. The one concern I have is their dress code:

During the day, casual resort attire (shirts with collars and khakis) is preferred. Jeans, bathing suits and ski boots are discouraged in the Great Hall. You may wear resort attire to the Spa, where robes and slippers are provided. In the evening, jacket and tie are required in the Dining Room and jackets elsewhere. Casual resort attire is welcomed at Sam Snead's Tavern and the Players Pub.
Sheeeesh - no thongs??? Don't they ever dress up at that place??!! :rotf:

[BLBantz]

I'll wait for Randy to post the official RFP requriements (as the only copy I have is from 2004), but the basic requirements are:

1. single hotel with at least 300 rooms
2. banquet facilities to support more than 600 attendees
3. decent riding circuits in the area
4. reasonable room prices (somewhere between the $75-$130/night range)

There are others, such as:

- parking for 300+ motorcycles
- area for outdoor and indoor vendors
- meeting rooms for seminars and tech sessions
- central area for registration and merchandise
- activities other than riding at the hotel
This sounds like my house!

[Wolfgang]

I'll wait for Randy to post the official RFP requriements (as the only copy I have is from 2004), but the basic requirements are:

1. single hotel with at least 300 rooms
2. banquet facilities to support more than 600 attendees
3. decent riding circuits in the area
4. reasonable room prices (somewhere between the $75-$130/night range)

There are others, such as:

- parking for 300+ motorcycles
- area for outdoor and indoor vendors
- meeting rooms for seminars and tech sessions
- central area for registration and merchandise
- activities other than riding at the hotel
http://www.groveparkinn.com/Groups/MeetingSpaces/Grand_Ballroom/

My favourite place!!! As far as I can tell it meets all the requirements. The atmosphere is one of a kind. Turn of the century charm.

[CaptRich]

Check out Maddens Brainerd,Mn on Gull lake.My old home town 22 years ago,good riding in the lake country,72 holes of golf,three major lodges on the property,pretty big place,used to be one of my accounts when I was in food service sales with Armour.I think Brian Thuringer would be the man to talk to.He and I used to own a 1949 Piper Clipper together.

[RonKMiller]

Hey Jeff:

It might be a bit early for planning a return to the Colorado Rockies - but we ARE smack dab in the middle of the country.

The Westin River Front Resort will be open in a year, and it has fly fishing in front along with kayaking/tubing, 10 golf courses within a 10 minute drive, a gondola literally in front with access to the top of Beaver Creek mountain, hot air ballooning ;), great shopping for the ladies and quite frankly the best riding and weather anywhere in the country. I can guarantee 50% off rates over Labor Day weekend which would bring room rates in around $100.00 - even two years from now... It is just about impossible for hotels around here to book a capacity group during that time so you can really drive a hard bargain. New hotels LOVE to show business on the books before they are even open. Breckenridge was OK, but this place will be the newest 4 (and most likely) 5 star resort in Colorado. It will make Beaver Run look like a Super 8.

I just toured a model room yesterday and it is quite frankly stunning. Plasma TV, fireplace, wet bar, mini fridge, dual head showers, Heavenly Bed, yadda yadda. There's a video virtual tour on the website. To give you an idea of how luxe this place is the hotel rooms for sale to individual owners (NOT a timeshare) START at $350,000. The 2 and 3 bedroom units all have individual bathrooms as well.

(Not to mention you have an ex-corporate hotel executive (moi) 2 miles down the road to help coordinate/negotiate...)

www.westinriverfront.com (http://www.westinriverfront.com/)

[dwsdad]

I'll wait for Randy to post the official RFP requriements (as the only copy I have is from 2004), but the basic requirements are:

1. single hotel with at least 300 rooms



Well, this pretty much rules out Boerne, don't it Dick?

[kevincook]

Hey Jeff:

It might be a bit early for planning a return to the Colorado Rockies - but we ARE smack dab in the middle of the country.





I just checked google. Lebanon, Kansas has been declared the center of the lower 48.

http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/KS3129/

I don't think we want to go there. :)

Colorado sounds better.

Kevin

[eljeffe]

Check out Maddens Brainerd,Mn on Gull lake.My old home town 22 years ago,good riding in the lake country,72 holes of golf,three major lodges on the property,pretty big place,used to be one of my accounts when I was in food service sales with Armour.I think Brian Thuringer would be the man to talk to.He and I used to own a 1949 Piper Clipper together.

That looks like a nice place. 292 rooms, room for 670 in the banquet hall, $139 and up for rooms (which can always be negotiated for a group).

Website: http://www.maddens.com/

[eljeffe]

Hey Ron,

Altitude was a big problem at Breckenridge. I'm not sure we can do another 9,000 foot resort again. I was really hoping we could do something in Utah (http://www.thecanyons.com/), but the 9,000 foot altitude seems to be an issue with this crowd.

[messenger13]

Want CCR in MY area...heck NO! The BoD does an amazing job at finding these places. And I like riding at least 700 miles or so to get to the event. Any closer would be boring. It just seems wrong for a BMW owner/rider to want this venue close to their home, doesn't it?

[unleashd]

Canaan Valley Resort and Conference Center: http://www.canaanresort.com/

[eljeffe]

Canaan Valley Resort and Conference Center: http://www.canaanresort.com/

Nice location. Only 250 rooms, but the 23 cabins/cottages would surely make up the difference. Decent rates as well. But the banquet facilities would be a very tight fit for 600+ (their largest room fits only 550).

Remember... 300+ rooms, banquet facilities for 600+, and parking for 300+ motorcycles. I think you guys all have the riding down pat, but it's the other stuff that keeps us looking.

[JCabranes]

Looks like a neat place, but it only has 240 rooms and the banquet hall would be a tight fit.


Try this one www.chulavistaresort.com 300 rooms ($125.00 per night but I assume a group discount is available), 40,000 sq feet of meeting rooms and some very nice riding in the area.

[RonKMiller]

I just checked google. Lebanon, Kansas has been declared the center of the lower 48.

http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/KS3129/

I don't think we want to go there. :)

Colorado sounds better.

Kevin

That's just a tourism promotion scam - and Kansas's idea of a mountain.

But, it might just be worth a visit!:rolleyes: :D

[eljeffe]

Try this one www.chulavistaresort.com (http://www.chulavistaresort.com) 300 rooms ($125.00 per night but I assume a group discount is available), 40,000 sq feet of meeting rooms and some very nice riding in the area.

That's more like it. Between the rooms and condos, this would be a good location. And more than enough banquet space.

[RonKMiller]

Hey Ron,

Altitude was a big problem at Breckenridge. I'm not sure we can do another 9,000 foot resort again. I was really hoping we could do something in Utah (http://www.thecanyons.com/), but the 9,000 foot altitude seems to be an issue with this crowd.

We're almost 3,000 feel lower at 6,700 MSL ....Breck is 9,600.... and temperatures are usually 10 degrees warmer.

Paonia is 5,600 - too hot for me.

We affectionately call the Western Slope the banana belt! :bmw:

[JeffB]

Rates are a little high, but that can usually be negotiated down. The one concern I have is their dress code:

re Homestead: Agree with the rates. I was wondering about the dress code with the group, but since I have yet to make a CCR I couldn't speak.

But the Canaan Valley suggestion made me think about other ski resort possibilities. Ski resorts run discounted rates during the summer. Since they are in the mountains they're located in areas with many twisties and beautiful scenery. The older mountains in the east probably have more passes so more routes on which to play. The other amenities/activities becomes more of the question. Many have golf. Many have spas. All have shopping. For example, I picked my largest "neighborhood" resort, Snowshoe (http://www.snowshoemtn.com/), and it seems to meet all the requirements. I'm sure others could too. Don't think you'll get everything in one building, but probably in a cluster.

[nightcrawler921]

That's just a tourism promotion scam - and Kansas's idea of a mountain.

But, it might just be worth a visit!:rolleyes: :D

What's tourism? Last study I saw ranked Kansas 49th out of the 50 states in tourism dollars. We really need more Casinos.

[JCabranes]

That's more like it. Between the rooms and condos, this would be a good location. And more than enough banquet space.

The Wisconsin BMW Club has its fall rally at the Chula Vista this weekend. I've never seen the place before though I hear its beautiful. Did I mention it has a huge indoor waterpark? Anyway I'll report next week and post a detailed description of the place w/ pics. Again if any of you are coming out for the MOA Rally next year we can ride out and look at it as its only about 1 1/2 hours or so from the rally site.

[RonKMiller]

What's tourism? Last study I saw ranked Kansas 49th out of the 50 states in tourism dollars. We really need more Casinos.

OK, I admit it. I was being sarcastic. :D

Here's one job I would never want: Director of Tourism for Kansas, but I've got a great motto: "We've Got Corn!"

Actually, you could always visit Cawker City:

The World’s Largest Ball of Twine is located in Cawker City. Frank Stoeber started this ball of twine on his farm in 1953. By 1957 it weighed 5,000 pounds, stood 8 feet high, and had 1,175,180 feet of twine on it. He gave the ball to the city in 1961. The Cawker City Community Club is the official owner/caretaker of the Ball of Twine. Each year a twine-a-thon is held, so the ball never stops growing.

Frank was the talk of the town...

That's Ms. Kansas 2006 in the picture below - she is so HOT!

[billd]

That's more like it. Between the rooms and condos, this would be a good location. And more than enough banquet space.
Wife and I just spent long weekend in the immediate area.. many beautiful rides and the Roads.. BEAUTIFUL!!! Curves, Hills, Clean new pavement and SCENERY!!! Tons of great little towns with things to stop at. Good resturants or places to see things. The local hospitality is just amazing!! I have not stayed at the resort YET. And actually there are several others as well in the same area that may meet the requirements. I think there are so many possible ride routes to enjoy !!! Even if it is not 700 miles for Joe.. but sure has possibilities !!!

[RonKMiller]

I just checked google. Lebanon, Kansas has been declared the center of the lower 48.

http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/KS3129/

I don't think we want to go there. :)

Colorado sounds better.

Kevin

Uh oh - looks like we a little "bragging rights" competition going on out their in the great plains: :mad:

"Midway USA"... Self-named the Midway City, Kinsley is exactly 1,561 from San Francisco to the west and 1,561 miles to New York in the east. A 1939 Saturday Evening Post cover showed two cars starting in Kinsley and going in opposite directions, both bearing a sign saying "World's Fair or Bust." (In 1939, there were two "World's Fairs," one in New York, and the Golden Gate Exposition in San Francisco.)

[nightcrawler921]

Uh oh - looks like we a little "bragging rights" competition going on out their in the great plains: :mad:

"Midway USA"... Self-named the Midway City, Kinsley is exactly 1,561 from San Francisco to the west and 1,561 miles to New York in the east. A 1939 Saturday Evening Post cover showed two cars starting in Kinsley and going in opposite directions, both bearing a sign saying "World's Fair or Bust." (In 1939, there were two "World's Fairs," one in New York, and the Golden Gate Exposition in San Francisco.)
But wait, the plot thickens. Here is the Geodtic Center of the USA in Osborne, KS. http://www.worldslargestthings.com/kansas/geodetic.htm

Actually Ron, I think we have more wheat than corn. We also have oil, Texas Tea.

[hschisler]

...Actually, you could always visit Cawker City...A little off-topic, but Kansas has tons of unique and interesting things to see. I spent a winter there (Jan-Mar) 2 years ago on a three-month IT contract. My wife and I intentionally sought out the unique and unusual things in Kansas: Cawker City's ball of twine, the world's largest hand-dug well (more impressive than it sounds), the Dalton gang hideout, Dodge City (a snooze fest, but the mammoth stock yards are interesting), aircraft factories (Cessna, Boeing, Raytheon, Bombardier), geographic center of the US, smallest church, the Kansas Cosmosphere (world-class, rivaling the Smithsonian), Museum of World Treasures, Old Cowtown Museum, Fort Lenard, Santa Fe Trail museum, Keeper of the Plains, Coleman museum, and on and on. And, despite its reputation, an amazingly beautiful state with varied topography.

[messenger13]

What's tourism? Last study I saw ranked Kansas 49th out of the 50 states in tourism dollars. We really need more Casinos.Yea...every state needs more hookers and drug dealers to really get them on the roadmap to progress! :rolleyes:

[nightcrawler921]

A little off-topic, but Kansas has tons of unique and interesting things to see. I spent a winter there (Jan-Mar) 2 years ago on a three-month IT contract. My wife and I intentionally sought out the unique and unusual things in Kansas: Cawker City's ball of twine, the world's largest hand-dug well (more impressive than it sounds), the Dalton gang hideout, Dodge City (a snooze fest, but the mammoth stock yards are interesting), aircraft factories (Cessna, Boeing, Raytheon, Bombardier), geographic center of the US, smallest church, the Kansas Cosmosphere (world-class, rivaling the Smithsonian), Museum of World Treasures, Old Cowtown Museum, Fort Lenard, Santa Fe Trail museum, Keeper of the Plains, Coleman museum, and on and on. And, despite its reputation, an amazingly beautiful state with varied topography.
Thanks Howard. It really does have some charm to it.

[nightcrawler921]

Yea...every state needs more hookers and drug dealers to really get them on the roadmap to progress! :rolleyes:
I'm pushing for legalizing prostitution and taxing the hell out of it.:D You wanna play you gotta pay.

Okay, now back to the topic. Sorry guys for the rabbit trail detour.

[jfwandrn]

There's also the Kalahari Resort in Wisconsin Dells. 740 rooms and plenty of space for exhibits and meetings. Both indoor and outdoor. Take a look. http://www.kalahariresorts.com/resorts/?locid=1&areaid=1

[Steve_R]

I'm like you Joe, but I had to put up with it my backyard this time. ;) 35 miles door to door. Looking forward to seeing everyone else next year in Missouri and SHMBO says we're coming in "Two Up!!" :thumb:

[RonKMiller]

But wait, the plot thickens. Here is the Geodtic Center of the USA in Osborne, KS. http://www.worldslargestthings.com/kansas/geodetic.htm

Actually Ron, I think we have more wheat than corn. We also have oil, Texas Tea.

Wow, now I'm really confused! I may just to have to visit all three (someday) and figure it out for myself - would make an interesting story. :bmw:

I'm actually pretty darned happy going anywhere I've never been before. :thumb:

[ddavenport]

http://laketahoe.hyatt.com/hyatt/images/hotels/tvllt/factsheet.pdf

Spectacular riding...Golf...Beautiful lake...Gambling....

Price might be the sticking point.

[dsauer608]

[QUOTE=RonKMiller]Hey Jeff:

It might be a bit early for planning a return to the Colorado Rockies - but we ARE smack dab in the middle of the country.

The Westin River Front Resort will be open in a year, and it has fly fishing in front along with kayaking/tubing, 10 golf courses within a 10 minute drive, a gondola literally in front with access to the top of Beaver Creek mountain, hot air ballooning ;), great shopping for the ladies and quite frankly the best riding and weather anywhere in the country.

Ooh, Ooh, Ooh, yeaaaaahhhhh!

[messenger13]

The Westin River Front Resort will be open in a year, and it has fly fishing in front along with kayaking/tubing, 10 golf courses within a 10 minute drive, a gondola literally in front with access to the top of Beaver Creek mountain, hot air ballooning ;), great shopping for the ladies and quite frankly the best riding and weather anywhere in the country.

Ooh, Ooh, Ooh, yeaaaaahhhhh!If you and Dean wasn't such posers, you could actually ride more than a couple hundred miles to get to a rally!!! :p :histerica

[CharlieVT]

http://www.killingtonresortvillage.com/grandhotel.html

This place only has 200 rooms in the main hotel but can accomodate many more across the street and next door. Nice facility, they are used to hosting professional conferences, etc. Largest banquet hall is approx. 15K sq ft so CCR would be a little tight but could be done.

The riding isn't as spectacular as the rockies, but it is darn good and the good roads start right at the hotel parking lot.

If the bored of directors wants me to do a little leg-work to get answers to more questions let me know.

This folks host the Killington Classic so they would happily host a CCR.
http://www.kevmarv.com/killington/index.html

[dsauer608]

If you and Dean wasn't such posers, you could actually ride more than a couple hundred miles to get to a rally!!! :p :histerica

Cleverly disguised posers, though, don't you think? ;) I'm actually an Asphalt and Roadway Princess (AARP for short) - totally spoiled by roads in my backyard <sniff>.

[messenger13]

Cleverly disguised posers, though, don't you think? ;) I'm actually an Asphalt and Roadway Princess (AARP for short) - totally spoiled by roads in my backyard <sniff>.And Dean's an AARP too? Asphalt and Roadway Pimp! :D

[Dick]

Well, this pretty much rules out Boerne, don't it Dick?
Hey, I dunno - we got those stockyards over by the fairgrounds - they don't git used much 'til rodeo season. Got nearly 300 stalls, with hay and a blanket, and a step stool in each one. Piped in music from a boom box hooked into the loudspeaker system at the goat barn. Got a beeg ole swimmin' pool right across the pasture, for cleanin' up after a ride around the Tejas Hill Country - even has a bath house and all. Plus, a banquet under the stars could be catered by the Dodging Duck, Bear Moon Bakery and the Daily Grind. Course, they might need a leetle hep from the new *$$, and Barkley's Feed and Seed emporium. Plenty of parking over in the south forty and we could prolly get up a bike wash at the Boerne Zoom & Vroom drive thru car wash. So, hey - reckon we'll be in the runnin', Doug? Course, maybe we oughta give some of those other places some consideration 'fore we make it final. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

[eljeffe]

http://www.killingtonresortvillage.com/grandhotel.html

This place only has 200 rooms in the main hotel but can accomodate many more across the street and next door. Nice facility, they are used to hosting professional conferences, etc. Largest banquet hall is approx. 15K sq ft so CCR would be a little tight but could be done.

The riding isn't as spectacular as the rockies, but it is darn good and the good roads start right at the hotel parking lot.

If the bored of directors wants me to do a little leg-work to get answers to more questions let me know.

This folks host the Killington Classic so they would happily host a CCR.
http://www.kevmarv.com/killington/index.html

Charlie,

Everytime we've tried the more than one hotel thing, we've had people who felt as if they missed something. We won't make that mistake again.

One facility, 300+ rooms, banquet space for 600+, and parking for more than 300 motorcycles.

[attsonny]

Coat and tie required.....????????

[eljeffe]

Hey Jeff:

It might be a bit early for planning a return to the Colorado Rockies - but we ARE smack dab in the middle of the country.

The Westin River Front Resort will be open in a year, and it has fly fishing in front along with kayaking/tubing, 10 golf courses within a 10 minute drive, a gondola literally in front with access to the top of Beaver Creek mountain, hot air ballooning ;), great shopping for the ladies and quite frankly the best riding and weather anywhere in the country.

(Not to mention you have an ex-corporate hotel executive (moi) 2 miles down the road to help coordinate/negotiate...)

www.westinriverfront.com (http://www.westinriverfront.com/)

Ron,

I just contacted the sales office. They will only have 210 rooms (studios and suites). About 90 less than we need.

The place looks absolutely fabulous, but too small.

[jayz9705]

I'm like you Joe, but I had to put up with it my backyard this time. ;) 35 miles door to door. Looking forward to seeing everyone else next year in Missouri and SHMBO says we're coming in "Two Up!!" :thumb:





Atta Girl, Connie!!!!

You go, girl!

Maybe we can even get you to take an MSF class so you can ride your own LT!

[jayz9705]

http://www.killingtonresortvillage.com/grandhotel.html

This place only has 200 rooms in the main hotel but can accomodate many more across the street and next door. Nice facility, they are used to hosting professional conferences, etc. Largest banquet hall is approx. 15K sq ft so CCR would be a little tight but could be done.

The riding isn't as spectacular as the rockies, but it is darn good and the good roads start right at the hotel parking lot.

If the bored of directors wants me to do a little leg-work to get answers to more questions let me know.

This folks host the Killington Classic so they would happily host a CCR.
http://www.kevmarv.com/killington/index.html





While the resort complex would serve the purpose, IMHO, I was not real impressed with the facility when I went to the event. That was the 2nd year, so mabe they have gotten a clue sincew then. It is similar to Breck, in that all the rooms are all condos that are owned privatley, and rented with permission.
Another thing to consider is that the event/hotel/management/whatever is not making money and has been in danger of being cancelled for the last 2 years. The CVB has been shoring up the situation, so their participation is either guaranteed or unlikely, depending on how much the return has been from motorcyclists to the town.
The area is very nice for riding and has lots of attractions and restaurants, but I would be aware of the current situation, going in for consideration.